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Edited by Mister Wrecked:
5/10/2024 5:56:44 AM
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I'm free from the Onslaught grind, afterthoughts
I have officially collected all the PVE and PVP rolls I wanted of each and every Brave Arsenal weapon. That includes:
PVE and PVP rolls of Midnight Coup, Blast Furnace, Elsie's Rifle, Luna's Howl, Recluse, and Hammerhead.
PVP rolls of Succession and Hung Jury.
PVE rolls of Falling Guillotine, Forbearance, and 2 Edge Transits (one BnS and one Deconstruct) and 2 Mountaintops (one for movement, one for actually shooting things).
2 of these guns are shinies.
Grinding out all of these took a bit of 10 wave farming, until the recent changes to drops. After the changes I ran at least one 50 wave run on Legend every day. It was quite a bit of grinding, and certainly more than I would expect your average casual to be willing to do.
During these runs it seemed to me like attunement was working fine. When attuned the majority of my drops were the attuned weapon. We're talking from all sources: playlist milestones, match rewards, and spending tokens at the chest. For me attunement seemed to have the least impact when turning in tokens.
Shiny drop rates were all over the place. I'd go 3-4 runs without seeing one. Sometimes I'd get 1-2 in a run. Then other times I'd but a query jackpot, like yesterday I got 5 shines in a single legend run. The majority of my shinies came from activity rewards and milestones. A couple came from turning in tokens, but those were very few and far between.
Perks seem weighted on all guns. This just might be cope, but I feel like I saw the same columns 3/4 perk combos [b]a lot[/b]. Much more than I would expect if all perks had the same chance to drop. I obviously can't prove weighting, but something definitely [i]feels[/i] off.
Anyway, I think attunement works fine. Shiny drops rates are all over the place, but I wish attunement would improve the odds of getting a shiny version of your attuned weapon if only slightly. If perks are not being weighted it would surprise me and I wish Bungie would look into it.
As far as the activity itself I feel like certain types of enemy spawns shouldn't happen on certain rounds. I can't tell you how many runs ended when Demolitionists appeared with either Cured Thrall and Ogres or Heavy Shanks and Exploding Shanks. Pair that with enemies that [i]still[/i] teleport to the ADU and you wind up with a situation where the players feel like there was nothing they could do to save the wave, even with hard meta loadouts. Invisible Vandals ignoring defenses and dropping approximately 542 spider mines also isn't particularly fun or engaging. Beyond those kind of BS, no win situations, the difficulty of Legend seems fun and appropriate.
Monthyards is a terrible map, strictly because of middle point that's between the planes. Enemies ignore defenses and the tripmines being inside the ADU damage radius makes so exploding enemies can sometime insta-merc the point.
All in all I've enjoyed Onslaught, even if I've almost burnt myself out grinding. I'm doing legend carries to get people in my clan their emblem this weekend and I'm looking forward to playing without having to be a loot goblin at the same time.
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Edited by The Hermit IX: 5/15/2024 9:17:57 AMI have an absurd amount of shiny weapons from running normal onslaught and that doesn’t include the vast amount of regular versions of god rolls. All 3 of my characters have excellent shiny rolls up and are part of solid builds I’m using. That’s 2 per character, plus more in their inventory and another 30 shiny rolls in my vault. Onslaught has been a total win for me as a player and I’m still hunting rolls. It’s a great mode to experiment with builds, farm S tier weapons with a rarity added and have fun in the process. My advice to anyone wanting to maximize the drops is create a solid build, complete the bonus objectives, complete bounties and get through all 5 bosses by playing as a team. You get more drops by doing these things. The better you do and the further you get through runs the better the drops are. The shiny versions can drop after any objective etc or by cashing in tokens but the most consistent drops happen in the last 2 phases.
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1 ReplyI run 3-5 everyday and only got one roll I wanted. Elsie’s rifle with Brace and destabilizing. I have recluse attuned since first day that I could and doesn’t look like i’m going to get it at this point. so far 3 shiny junk rolls of other weapons that’s it. I would think I would’ve had at least one shiny recluse by now, but doesn’t look like it. I’ve gotten zero shiny weapons this week. I’m starting to get burn out.
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1 ReplyEdited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 5/10/2024 6:00:30 PMAll I have left is heal clip/incandescent Luna and I’ll be done. This is what unchecked RNG that can go on indefinitely with zero player input does. It invokes relief instead of joy. The joy of the new toy fades into the relief of it being over. Relief is the product of an unpleasant experience. Not a joyous one.
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3 RepliesYou have played this WAY more than me. I see that attunement seems to work about 25% of the time. 1 in 4 weapon drops are what I attuned. I have only ever seen 1 shiny drop while running onslaught. Just one! No point in playing if you can't get a reward. There should be bad luck protection on shiny drops.
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Edited by Demoniser: 5/12/2024 7:16:31 PMI've gotten a few ok rolls and the odd god roll, but they're not life changing weapons. Nothing is taking Wishenders/Malfeasance spot on my GM load out. Exotics will always be better.
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1 ReplyPerks have absolutely got to be weighted. I've gotten 50+ midnight coups and not a single one has dropped with firefly + one for all. Not one. That includes about 7 shiny midnight coups. I have EP + OFA which is the one I'll likely use most of the time but I wanted the other to just try it out. Finally gave up and attuned to another weapon to chase after
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7 RepliesYeah, Bungie was pretty heavy handed with this "event". Just like always, they weighted against the good perks. Auto loading holster and Recombination on Mountaintop were exceedingly rare while impulse amplifier or slickdraw were on almost every drop. Vorpal was also exceedingly rare. Bungie basically created a legendary replacement for witherhoard and then made it almost impossible to get. In probably fifty Mountaintop drops I got vorpal twice and recombination twice. The Vorpals were BOTH paired with slickdraw and recombination with impulse amplifier... So trash rolls. I finally got the autoloading/recombination, but by that time I had god rolls on every single other weapon just as side drops while I was attuned to Mountaintop the entire time. Now, after a month Bungie finally reduced the throttling. This is unfortunately why they are going to lose their studio. They just can't manage fair play and they are so bitter towards the playerbase that every small content drop is filled with attempts to "get revenge" for the fact that the playerbase doesn't accept their mediocre rehashing of old content.
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I hate Mothyards. Too much blam to jump over and around. Blam everywhere in the way.
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My 2d worth: OP - great post! ✅ I’ve got a handful of various ‘shinies’ - most are meh! One decent Luna’s, though…but nothing that I didn’t have in other individual rolls. Most of my normal weapons are nearly always pretty good and useable! I’ve probably got more than a few ‘must have’ rolls…though I often find one particular ordinary roll that I actually prefer to use! 🥳 I’ve not done Legend runs as the normal ones are more than enough for this old tortoise…though kudos to those ‘hares’ that do! 😁 The issue re teleporting hoards of overpowered tanky enemies is well known…and needs sorting. There are other issues, too, eg, chests not spawning; doors not opening; no enemies at final boss fight, etc… 🧐 Otherwise, not too shabby! Ease springs! 🫡
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Dozens of blast furnaces and not got the roll I want. So close with one. Perfect barrel, steady rounds and stability masterwork except I got rapid hit instead of kill clip to go with headseeker. I will keep trying.
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5 RepliesIt's been like a month of grinding onslaught and the forbearance god roll of ambitious and chain reaction has not dropped for me. I don't think attunement works and is actually bad because is not randomizing the perks. I either get chain reaction and demolitionist or wellspring all the time. I've giving up on the grind for all these weapons, is not worth it. Bungie actually wants players to go INSANE grinding onslaught for god rolls. No thank you...I'm done! And the rate of shiny weapons is too low... so attunement is actually TRASH! Bungie also keeps increasing the difficulty on onslaught....I actually hate onslaught now because I grinded the activity so much and I still don't have god rolls on many of the weapons. I'm done with onslaught...I'm sure lots of players feel the same.
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Happy for you that you got what you came for. I didn't get a single weapon with my desired perks. A handful of terible guilded drops. My attuned weapon rarely dropped. I wasted so many hours grinding hundreds of runs through that annoying activity. Onslought burnt me out, I logged in yesterday and took one look at the director and closed the game.
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Must be nice! Even focused I get trash. Focus means I won't get the target weapon.
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I'm too tired after 50 waves on Normal. I have to keep going. 😔
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I’ve had a couple of fun runs and got a shiny Midnight Coup with Outlaw/Kinetic Tremors which I’m happy with
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Edited by wikked75: 5/11/2024 10:16:07 AMI dont have everything i wanted, but im sort of burnt out on onslaught. My own fault, i get it. plus a little of watching people on youtube turning in 100s of tokens and getting like 5-10 shiny versions, then me turning in even more tokens than them, and getting literally only 1. Sorta turned me off of trying anymore.
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Still need the god roll Luna and blast furnace but onslaught really is boring on the same maps and attuning doesn’t work
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1 ReplyWhat exactly is shinies?
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Yeah some perks feel weighted as hell. Twice now I got two shiny weapons in a row with nearly the same rolls and they weren’t great. I’ve actually gotten more shinies on weapons I don’t have focused which is also kinda annoying. I have a lot of really good rolls which is fine by me. The only things I’m grinding for now are a 10/10 edge transit, a good lunas and like a 8/10+ mountain Good job bro that must have been soul draining lol
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2 RepliesEdited by Woooooooo: 5/10/2024 11:50:24 PMCongrats. I got lucky with RNG with all the brave weapons with the exception of Luna's. I've lost count of how many I've deleted, so I'm starting to think I either used up all my RNG luck looking for a heal clip / incandescent roll or it just doesn't exist and the perk pool is a lie 😀
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Lol …I’m free from onslaught …says everything😂
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1 ReplyYou can go outside and breathe air now soldier.
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Activate Touch Grass Emote my friend, you have made it through.
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Edited by Guardian,Archon Of Light: 5/10/2024 8:40:50 PMYou're not done, untill you get perfect 7/7 God roll shinys of each weapon , regular brave weapons are auto dismantle Back to onslought guardian
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Shiny drop rates are now non-existent for me. I got a few the first week, but not a single one since that first week and I am running a lot more since the Blast Furnace and Luna's was released. So far I have a god roll Blast Furnace, the only one I really wanted, and a near god roll on Midnight Coup. Pretty much crap on the rest. The good news, for me, is I like running Onslaught but wish Legend was also match-making since by now most know how to run it but adding in team finding time and actually starting, heck that can be 15-25 waves done right there, and I actually have a life outside of Destiny so running normal mode is pretty much all I do. I tried soloing legend, yeah, that's not so much fun after the first 10 waves! Anyone that can do that deserves a real life, full size, fully functional Archie!
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I maybe have one or two rolls I would have liked across all of the into the light wespons. Had a total of three shinies drop, one of which is decent. A few years ago I’d have continued grinding, but not now. I’m done with Onslaught.
