I'm sorry but that is a whole other level of basic.
I get it, we've got Ninjas and Moderators here to make sure people aren't being harassed or 'bullied' if that's how you really want to describe this situation. But that would be making mountains out of molehills.
I don't think a simple instance of using a single expletive is enough to warrant people getting so sensitive.
I feel like this was less about the actual use of obscene language and more about the personal agenda of certain members of the Community. I mean we all say and endure comments far worse than this routinely. That's the popular explanation for why Bungie tends to monitor Reddit more closely than their own backyard. [b]#SpinmetalHat.[/b]
Just seems really basic. I've made my fair share of rude remarks, and they've never been touched. But I guess maybe this guy was enough of a tool and used the report feature, and somebody felt like pressing the warn button because why the heck not?
I don't care if I told the guy to go F himself. That's what the filter is there for. That's why I didn't needlessly add numerous uses of profanity. That's why I didn't bother with harassing him past the first comment. That's why I haven't even looked back at that post since then, up until I get a warning in my Notifications.
If someone has an unpopular opinion and expresses it with an elitist and pretentious attitude, but I can't even return the favor without a ninja warning [i]me,[/i] just because I decided to use a word with some weight to it, how can we pretend the monitoring of the Forum is effective or meaningful?
Essentially you're just human filter engines, I guess? Flaws are built-in?
I just don't see why one word is any worse than another, if there's a filter involved. 'Screw you' would've sufficed just as well and gotten the same point across, Code of Conduct be [i]damned.[/i] But we're going to pretend Ninjas and Moderators are doing such a [i]great[/i] job because they can just ban/warn anything filtered in good faith without a second thought, without much warranting it otherwise?
If we're doing it to diffuse an unhealthy habit, then that's A-Okay. Harassment, excessive profanity and outright obscenity are completely different from telling someone to F themselves. This just seems petty. We're in the Year 2016 and we're going to let ragebabies spread unpopular opinions because people happen to trigger a filter.
Inevitable "Code of Conduct this," reply incoming. 'Screw' you and your 'Code'. ;)
I'm tired of seeing and hearing about stupid executions of moderation tools. One minute someone's complaining about how quickly they'll move a topic that didn't 100% need moved to Feedback just to be buried in Nerfherder banter, but when it's in All for something controversial like religion/politics it just sits there forever; way before that it was Sols getting harassed after some petty crap with some hardcore baiters, and now I'm being warned for telling some dude with his bigoted opinions to screw themselves because they're just high on themselves.
What will your next farce be, I wonder?
The Internet ushered in an age of toxic, elitist behavior and profanity. Cursing is bad, but not entirely toxic by nature, just not always unanimously accepted. Being an elitist bigot isn't something we should be promoting in a Community game. Detrimental behavior should be discouraged, like when a tryhard tries to talk smack because of a single stat like K/D. [b]Those[/b] are the things that make your Forum look pathetic and meager, Bungie.
The curse words aren't hurting anyone, cursing is practically a rite of passage in human culture. You've merely adopted this ruse of refinement that did nothing for the generations before them that tried to enforce this norm.
It's so silly it honestly grinds my gears. People need to grow up. There are things far worse than words. Getting caught up in a fuss over someone's choice of vocabularly is just insane. What is with this knee-jerk instinct that swear words are undesirable and shouldn't be used? They have emphatic power and are a pillar of human expression. Quit censoring stuff that doesn't need censored.
Rant over, I guess.
[b]Edit:[/b] I like how basically the person who allegedly reported me comes into my thread, essentially threatens me that he would've "left me on the ground broken" if this were in person, but somehow that's totally okay?
So I'm the 'whiny kid' for deciding his opinion was bigoted, but he's an adult for threatening what he perceives was a whiny kid? You guys are a damn riot sometimes. This circus act is just bonkers.
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Don't insult other users and you don't have to worry about warnings or bans. Feel free to discuss topics and disagree, but calling someone a bunch of names on the Internet doesn't acomplish anything.
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Learn how the word "basic" is actually supposed to be used in a sentence.
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I agree. Ninjas should focus on the people causing arguments rather than the people who say harsh things as a result.
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Edited by evilinside007: 8/3/2016 4:54:20 AMBro...how do you know the person you offended isnt a direct descendant of GOD, a.k.a Patrick Swayze? Or it could have been Patrick Swayze reincarnate, in which case, shame on you blasphemer! Your lucky you only received a warning! I once called a dude a d-bag and come to find out, he was Leslie Nielsen reincarnate! Leslie friggn Nielsen!!! Ya know, the guy from the Naked Gun movies! I wish I could take it back but it was too late, and as a result, I now reside in the Neverland ranch for all eternity. They do let me play destiny though, in case that wasn't obvious.
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Hey. At this point, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut with this final statement. We shouldn't harass anyone PERIOD. Sarcasm is cool, it's actually pretty funny to be on either end. But hateful language and spiteful language should not be tolerated. This is my stance and it's for BOTH SALTY AND THE OP. To you, I hope anything I said didn't offend. I was really trying to get to the bottom and I hope everything works out for the OP and for Salty. It is a game. And everyone should be able to play. Sorry OP for taking a side. I should've read more. I hope everything works out.
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If you don't agree with their rules start your own forums.
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I wouldn't complain too much about this "elitist" troll baby. For being such a great and elite player he's not really bringing much to the table.. Below 1.0 kd in crucible No characters to max light He's not an elite player, hell he's not even a good player. He's just another troll that lives on these forums just to pass the time
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The post directly below this uses curse words in the title and no bans. Who decided which words were bad and which words were good to begin with? Seems as though certain religious beliefs are determining guidelines for Bungie moderators to enforce certain things.
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100% agree. The words are filtered a anyway and can't be seen.
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Edited by SithLord Osirus: 8/2/2016 9:26:47 PMI got a week ban for telling a guy, that had insulted me several times already, that he was so stupid that I should kill myself on the off chance we were related, just to be sure I didn't inadvertantly spread anymore of his stupid around. They removed my message, and banned me, but left up all the other guys messages insulting me, and he continued after, so I know they didn't ban him too.
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So you use an expletive. You then get warned. How do you stop being warned? I have an idea, wait for it ...... , stop using expletives. Have a nice day.
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The game is rated T, and at the end of the day, wouldn't the forums be a nicer place if people didn't directly insult each other like that? These are Bungie's forums, and if you want to use them, follow their code of conduct.
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You lost me at screw meaning the same thing as -blam!-. One obviously carries more weight than the other. Not only that, you got warned, not banned. 6 months ago they probably would have just banned you. I've noticed a trend lately with a lot of these "Why was I warned" posts popping up. It seems to me the ninjas are being kinder by saving the bands for bigger breaks and handing out more slaps on the wrist, or that could just be my personal perception. Take your slap on the wrist and stop telling people to go -blam!- themselves. Problem solved. It doesn't matter how you think someone should have reacted to your words. What matters is there was an obvious malice behind what you wrote. If you can't control yourself and be the bigger person when confronted by the elitist douchebag then maybe you don't belong on this forum. Because I guarantee that isn't the last one you're going to see.
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Dont u wish you could see the ninja who warned or banned you. Like when u get that message it has their username attached to it like regular post replies.
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Lol what!!
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I usually mute anyone that curses or does one of the ... type curses. It's not necessary or appropriate.
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Edited by Sage: 8/2/2016 8:49:13 PMDude, people commit suicide over words ok. I've known when people could suffer a beating, but words do have an effect. Sorry about Bungie being PC here but it's understandable. Sorry that some people can't take words online. Most of us guardians use sarcasm in place of very spiteful words, after all it's a game. NOW you know @oldsalty This guy insulted you again in a long post. I'll report him as well.
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Any time I see "elitist" I think the OP has an inferiority complex. Honestly, it's a game, get over it. Dislike, hide, mute and / or report. [u]You are NOT obligated to reply with hate[/u]. You take the risk of getting warned or banned every time you do. I highly recommend, in any form in which you live your life, that you never engage in childish bickering or name calling. It's no way to get ahead in real life and it certainly is unnecessary here. There reason I even responded was because I recently got called an "elitist prick" for point out that the person arguing with me over raid tactics and light level requirements had zero completions of the raid in question, whereas I have 180 completions. Sometimes people need to separate their egos from the reality and acknowledge they are not as good as they think and not everyone needs to cater to them. I personally set high requirement for my groups because I play late and work early in the morning. If I want a group of people that are 335+, have a mic, not kids, are experienced and won't waste my time, then that's my decision to make as it's my time I am spending.
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By the way. You got super BUTTHURT over your own actions. Shows me you can't take responsibility. Have fun gaming man. You lost respect in this community. Be sarcastic! NOT HATEFUL. Lol.
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Sorry you deserved the ban. No one believes the ninjas are perfect. Far from it. But this was all on you.
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Bump -for later reading- will respond in a bit. I can't stand bad behaviour
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sticks and stones. it shit really irks you with people posting stuff online, such as telling you are complaining about petty bs, then maby you should unplug. simple as that. this is directed to the one who filed the complaint.