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Edited by Dr. Kaal:
11/27/2020 8:45:41 AM
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Felwinter’s Lie is meta in Crucible. So why is it unobtainable?
Sucks for those who took a break or joined the game late and couldn’t obtain this OP shotty.
I’m also not sure why in a hotfix they returned loot from previous few seasons but didn’t add Felwinter’s Lie to the vault. Like the kids say these days, kinda sus.
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So I don’t have to repeat myself to every clueless Jimmies out there that claim how it’s not meta and that are other comparable shotguns. IT IS META. Go to the destinytracker and look up what’s the #1 energy weapon, I dare you. As for comparable shotguns...
Look there, Jimmy, aggressive frame shotguns are the best in slot in Crucible. They have the most consistent 1 shot kill rate out of all types of shotguns. And a godroll with the perfect perks for PvP like tightened barrel, accurized rounds, quickdraw and opening shot is as good as it gets.
There are no other aggressive frame shotguns that would come with quickdraw, let alone all 4 perks. There were mindbender’s but it was a friggin RNG grind that couldn’t guarantee a drop in 10 runs, let alone a good roll. I farmed like crazy for weeks back in the day and didn’t get a single one with quickdraw. And now it’s sunset and not even obtainable anymore.
So now I come to try out a new expansion and realize that the one season I missed everyone got a perfect roll aggressive frame shotgun with a QUEST?! It’s a friggin joke!
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People are really missing the point here. OP isn't asking to be "given" Felwinter's, they're asking to be able to [i]earn[/i] Felwinter's. For those of you who walked through a five minute quest, congratulations! You got the gun earlier, you got the gun for minimal effort. In fact, Bungie even modified the event - [i]to give you the gun.[/i] What OP wants is to be able to earn it. That might be through a Crucible focused ritual quest, or through a set drop after a certain number of high difficulty Nightfalls, or any way that would guarantee obtaining a weapon that others were guaranteed to obtain. It's not "entitlement", it's wanting to have the ability to go and work for a weapon that is very prevalent in the meta. And it is very prevalent in the meta. Especially in 6v6, but also in higher level competitive play, it's one of the best shotguns out there. Very high kill range, energy slot (which is favourable as a lot of meta primaries are kinetic, such as Dire Promise) and leaving your exotic slot free is a godsend if you want to use consistently strong weapons such as The Ace of Spaces. Felwinter's is the [i]most used energy on every single platform,[/i] so is, undoubtedly, the meta. I was not actually [i]able[/i] to play during Felwinter's release due to deeply personal reasons I don't want to share, but now, a very strong PvP weapon is impossible for me to get. I'm punished for events out of my control that have absolutely no bearing on my skill as a player, just because I wasn't able to play the game during that time window. Stop trying to gatekeep the very content you wanted to remain in the game, and give players the ability to earn (earn, not be given) every weapon that may be relevant into the future. We've already seen this with the Monuments to Lost Light, which offers weapons such as Not Forgotten or Mountaintop that did actually have a relatively high skill requirement to earn. Felwinter's should be no different, especially considering it came from an easy quest, and an event that was modified to be easier. That's not earning it. No, [i]that[/i] is getting handed a gun. And then you get upset when other people want to earn that same gun? That blows my mind. TL;DR The stats show Felwinter's is meta, the original quest was laughably easy and the event was made easier by Bungie, and those people who were handed the gun shouldn't gatekeep by saying others shouldn't then be allowed to actually work and earn the gun.
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7 RepliesThe shotgun on my hunter is way better than felwinters. Give it a try.
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Because the quest is a lie. It doesn’t exist.
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heres a shoty that can roll with all for perks thats aggro its called astral horizon this should hold u over untill felwinters get sunsetted witch is wat the exotic archive is used for sunsetted legend weaopons or exotics from psat seasons and raids
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My name is Ion, not Jimmy.
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Because is was an community event weapon You didnt help...you dont get it. Simple as that. Now can everyone stop complaining about it and just use other BETTER shotguns .
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It's hilarious, they REMOVED shot package in D1 because it was broken, but bring it back in D2 😂
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It's coming back eventually in another quest. Maybe during the Christmas event. So make sure you log in and check jimmy, ok?
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3 RepliesSeems like loads of people didn't get it, even though it was an easy quest and didn't take long at all. No one to blame but yourself.
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2 RepliesForum Kids - Sunsetting is bad. Also the same Forum Kids - you missed XYZ gun, tough luck. This place makes no sense
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Because everyone hates exclusive weapons until they have one, especially one so good and easy to use. I just started using duality cos it seems to do just as well if you land a headshot
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5 RepliesI have it.. never use it. Never felt I had to but then again I don't sweat PvP. We all have access to an exotic that has better range. Why not use that? I mean it seems like a really simple solution.
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2 RepliesYou didnt earn it Why should they just give it to you?
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3 RepliesI'm sure we're all better off with not everyone using it. Think about it. Like I said to another guy, there are plenty of other weapons to use and in particular shotguns. Find another. If you needed the [i]BEST[/i] energy shotgun that isn't sunset then you would have made sure you got it when it was available. If you didn't, then it wasn't important to you or its just bad luck or the destiny gods telling you to use something else.
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3 Repliesstopped at op shotty, is not you can do the same with AH, ToT, and cqc
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4 RepliesIt has a whopping one meter more of range, that is susceptible to RNG. There are plenty of “good” shotguns out there still. Also if you can wield chaperone it poo’s on that shotgun.
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1 ReplyIt is meta. It's the number one used gun in crucible. No other shotgun comes close. It's the only gun with shot package. They shouldn't have given everyone a god roll at the time. It should have been nerfed when Beyond Light dropped to make other legendary shotguns worth using. That being said, you shouldn't be able to get it if you weren't there to get it for at least a year.
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10 RepliesDefinitely not meta lol
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Because it was a community event reward . People who didnt help dont get rewards. Dont expect to be rewarded for doing nothing.
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3 RepliesI did the quest and got it. It should be added to the vault for everyone that missed it.
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1 ReplyI mean I wouldn’t mind or care if this thing gets added to the kiosk, but I wouldn’t call it OP. The handling on it is pretty garbage, and the amount of times it actually registers your opening shot isn’t even worth mentioning. I haven’t really been in the mood to play this season but last season my mindbenders ran circles around felwinters. Should be able to use it well even now in gamemodes that aren’t trials or IB, otherwise I’d run astral (another shotgun better than the lie) if you’re fine with running kinetic, or jump on the slug train with a solid first in, last out.
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7 RepliesWhat’s even worse is that they sunset mindbenders and didn’t offer a replacement. Now if you don’t have Felwinters and like running a kinetic weapon that isn’t a shotgun, you’re SOL. Thanks Bungie 🙌🏼
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It's probably in the next Iron Banner
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2 RepliesUpvote. It currently is Meta. 😂
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13 RepliesYou didn’t do the quest. No matter what ur excuse. 🤷
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4 RepliesIt's not Meta.
