The Summoner class is one of the reasons I wanted to get the Arcanist in XIV, because it's a branching job off of the Arcanist that allows you to summon Primals, the core manifestations of the Gods of Final Fantasy, so Ifrit, Shiva, Garuda, and so on. Well in XIV, they're called Egis now for some reason(the versions that you yourself can summon), and they kinda suck ass. Compare them in these pictures: This is Ifrit from XI: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080908173060/ffxi/images/5/54/Ifritprime.png Ifrit from XIV: http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ifrit_egi_thumb.jpg Garuda from XI: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121215201607/finalfantasy/images/6/6d/Garuda_(FFXI).png Garuda from XIV: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130729072048/finalfantasy/images/a/a7/Garuda-Egi.jpg Titan in XI: http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/archive/e/ef/20121215203413!Titan_(FFXI).png Titan in XIV: http://www.justpushstart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Titan.jpg The Egi forms are pathetic versions of them and don't feel like some powerful entity in the slightest, they don't even look it, there's level 1 enemies bigger than them, and they're supposed to be powerful? Because when you see how they look otherwise in the game, you feel pretty shafted, these are versions of them that you fight in boss battles in XIV: Garuda: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121121030831/finalfantasy/images/1/10/FFXIV_Garuda_Complete_Artwork.jpg Ifrit: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110928020550/finalfantasy/images/8/8d/FFXIV_Ifrit_Battle.jpg Titan: http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130501215328/finalfantasy/images/archive/a/ae/20130618212233!Titan_XIV_CG.jpg So then you think, "wow, we got shafted with these things, they're not nearly as badass or cool as the boss versions in the game or the versions of them in XI", so it kinda ticked me off when I looked into it the other day. The one thing that I might be able to say is that we get these forms that comprise the entities, because it's their aetheric essence as said in-game, the core manifestations of the Summons themselves, not the actual beings because they would be far too large or over-powered if players could summon those versions. Also because there is no MP tax in XIV like there was in XI, you can have the Egi forms out as much as you want, whereas in XI you could also use their most powerful attacks so long as you had the MP for it and that they would drain from your MP, so I suppose that makes some sense as to why we get these forms now. Anyways, let's hear those opinion. I might bump this periodically if I want more input or discussion about this. This could also just be my personal opinion on them, so we'll see what others think.