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10/18/2009 12:58:51 PM
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Overlooked: Flood on Harvest (Halo Wars)
It never really registered we me when it happened on Halo Wars, but it would appear that the Flood were on Harvest.
When SGT Forge is observing the Arbiter through a pair of binoculars the Arbiter is told "One of the INFECTION defiles the relic". This would surely mean that the Flood were on Harvest, would it not?
Thoughts?
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The staff of the PoA, and spartans would have no knowledge of the Flood if ONI kept it a secret. Or, the Halo wars spartans never made it back home. Thus leaving Halo CE canon intact.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MaxRealflugel So, where does this leave us all with Harvest?[/quote] I think it has to do with the UNSC knowing about the flood before Halo:CE, which contradicts the plot of Halo:CE with them not knowing about the flood. Halo wars is slightly confusing...arghh mabye not the whole story is perceived as Canon? for future titles?
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So, where does this leave us all with Harvest?
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Okay, yous should read the halo wars timeline. It states that the arbiter would send packs of suicide grunts through newely discovered installations to destroy any enemies that would harm them. in halo one, on the level where you first meet the flood read the little bio when you select the level, it says something like this: Venture through the swamps and meet the only enemy that the covenant fear. This states that the covenant have fought the flood before, and probably only just beat a small force of them. Now to get back on point, when the elite says "What if the Infection Defies the Relic" the Arbiter response was: "I care not for you pity life" or something like that. The infection refers to the flood because they would infect the covenants armies and destroy them with ease, and that the Covenant were actually scared of them because of it
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog It either refers to humanity, or the fact that the Covenant often find Flood in Forerunner installations, and assumed the one on Harvest to be the same.[/quote] Pff, and I'll bet he commandeers yet another scarab, blows a hole in a Sangheili palace and meets up with Master Chief! Yeah, sure.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog The Prophet of...I think it's Entimonogy or something similar, aboard the Infinite Succor, seemed to know what the Flood was after just encountering them on Halo.[/quote] That is because they are present in the Covenants "holy books." I mean, if the Bible said "Watch out for parasitic zombies when you go waltzing into an ancient bunker" then you would probably be a little nervous when it comes time to open an ancient bunker. You might want to watch out for zombies.
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The Prophet of...I think it's Entimonogy or something similar, aboard the Infinite Succor, seemed to know what the Flood was after just encountering them on Halo.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 I always thought he said: [quote][b]What if[/b] the infection defiles the relic?[/quote] This would make more sense because the Covenant has probably found the Flood in relics before, and for all they know, Flood could be in hibernation inside the structure.[/quote] I find it hard to believe that the Covenant have encountered the flood before, yet still live to tell of it.... They barley contained the Halo: CE outbreak, and Halo 2 containment was utter failure.[/quote] But they survived though, correct? Also instead of engaging the flood like in HALO CE they probably would have fled with the flood being new to them and turning some of their own forces against them.
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He was [i]definitely[/i] talking about the flood. "What if the infection defiles the relic?" When have they EVER called humans that? And when have they NOT referred to the Flood as "the Infection?" I'm surprised no one picked up on this: "I care not for your little life..." Why else would this elite fear for his life by simply opening the relic? That there are humans inside planning to ambush them? I find that highly unlikely. And the Covenant have DEFINITELY encountered the Flood before. Look at Halclyon's Galactic map. Even though the Flood are from a different universe, the forerunners indicate that the Flood are present in that universe. I don't think the Flood was new to them. [Edited on 10.21.2009 1:49 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Buggy Virus Sounds to me they are talking about Johnson... who is awesome... and didn't actually die...[/quote] Because Mendicant Bias revived and teleported him away from Installation 04 before it could explode. I mean, it's in Insurrection. It must be true! ;)[/quote] [i]No I didn't...[/i]
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I think they were worried that the flood MIGHT be in the ruins. Hence the "what if ...?" - it was by no means a confirmation.
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1. He says "What if the INFECTION defiles the relic?" 2. It's referring to Humans. 3. It's Halo Wars, there's plot holes you can drive a semi through.
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No Flood on Harvest. They refer to humanity as vermin, an infection that must be cleansed, thats why they glass planets with human populace on it, its called Sterlization. Kill all the infection.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CmdrScott1701 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Havoc 101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CmdrScott1701 Aye, that too lass. I meant legitimately KIA...[/quote] The Covenant can't kill him legitametly in Halo 1?[/quote] True, the Master Chief did technically.[/quote] MC: Johnson, give me the damn cigar. Johnson: No, chief. You see, this is going to be my trademark in a few years, this cigar is my soul! By the third game, I'll be more popular than you are! MC: I've got your fame right here. *reloads pistol*
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Havoc 101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CmdrScott1701 Aye, that too lass. I meant legitimately KIA...[/quote] The Covenant can't kill him legitametly in Halo 1?[/quote] True, the Master Chief did technically.
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He said "What if the infection defiles the relic?" Anyway, he is most likly talking about Humanity.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 I always thought he said: [quote][b]What if[/b] the infection defiles the relic?[/quote] This would make more sense because the Covenant has probably found the Flood in relics before, and for all they know, Flood could be in hibernation inside the structure.[/quote] I find it hard to believe that the Covenant have encountered the flood before, yet still live to tell of it.... They barley contained the Halo: CE outbreak, and Halo 2 containment was utter failure.[/quote] Hello? The Covenant encountered the Flood in Halo Wars, and Regret and quite a few of the Covenant fleet made it back to High Charity. And they [i]still[/i] barely contained a the Halo: CE outbreak. And besides, the Covenant's "prophecies" speak of the Flood. [Edited on 10.19.2009 5:23 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] petarded2 I always thought he said: [quote][b]What if[/b] the infection defiles the relic?[/quote] This would make more sense because the Covenant has probably found the Flood in relics before, and for all they know, Flood could be in hibernation inside the structure.[/quote] I find it hard to believe that the Covenant have encountered the flood before, yet still live to tell of it.... They barley contained the Halo: CE outbreak, and Halo 2 containment was utter failure.
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I always thought he said: [quote][b]What if[/b] the infection defiles the relic?[/quote] This would make more sense because the Covenant has probably found the Flood in relics before, and for all they know, Flood could be in hibernation inside the structure.
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I believe he meant humans. BUT NO! In the time line somewhere it is said he was afraid of what lied inside the relics.... And he would detonate the suicide grunts if danger aroused... FLOOD ON HARVEST! *panics and jumps off cliff* [Edited on 10.19.2009 4:43 PM PDT]
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Correction, the Arbiter said "What if the infection defies the Relic" At that time, the Covenant and the abnoxious Arbitar refer to human weakling as "Vermin" and as for the spartans as "Demons". Thinking all they could sense were the dull and evil looking eyes of the Demon/Spartan.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bjb yo Also, [url=http://www.halowars.com/forums/default.aspx]go here for this kinda stuff.[/url][/quote] He's asking if the Flood were on Harvest. Harvest is a Bungie creation. So, it belongs here.
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No, the Elite says, "[b]What if[/b] the infection defiles the Relic?" Also, [url=http://www.halowars.com/forums/default.aspx]go here for this kinda stuff.[/url]
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There never was Flood on Harvest. Ripa 'Moramee meant humanity... In his eyes, humanity is an infection that would defile sacred Forerunner artefacts if they would touch them.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CmdrScott1701 Aye, that too lass. I meant legitimately KIA...[/quote] The Covenant can't kill him legitametly in Halo 1?
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Aye, that too lass. I meant legitimately KIA...
