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Edited by Taco: 2/7/2016 4:11:38 PM
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The Update We'll Never Get

Some of you veterans out there (the few that are left) may remember this post. I've put it in spoilers for those who don't know it/remember it. Destiny has made a couple great steps forward with the TTK release, but at the same time they took 6 steps back. As a beta player, and an avid follower of this game pre-release (They really know how to hype up a game, especially with footage from the actual scrapped Destiny game from a year before release), I've watched since the beginning the BS, lies, half-truths, empty promises, deceit, and terrible decision making that has plagued this game. Let's take a little look at some issues, feel free to add your own, I'm out of word space. [b]Fire Luke smith.[/b] [b]edit[/b] by now most people have left Destiny, leaving just the desticles and sweaty pvp players, and most complaints fall on deaf ears. But there is always hope. Especially with a new ceo. - nightfall is dead. They killed it with the TTK. Bring back the blue flame and XP boost (they said they'd increase XP everywhere else to balance it, but never did), remove stuff like emotes, sparrows, limited time event "rewards", 3 of coin as rewards, decrease the ghost shells. Bump up the light level, bump up reward light level, you die you go back to orbit. - bring back year one content. Seriously. No reason why year one, everything we paid for, was left behind. Luke smith said that he didn't want to bring year one forward because he didn't want players to have too much to do, too much to grind. And yet, the game is even more of a grind now, with less to do. Since day one the game suffered from lack of content, what's their solution to that? They cut out more content. - raid weapon rewards. They're disappointing. Majority of the players loved getting a primary with an elemental burn, it was awesome, a truly powerful weapon to commemorate your hard work. Luke smith did not like this. He chose to get rid of this during KF. He felt (and in a way he was right, but there are other ways to deal with it) that it limited weapons used, and that's not fair to other weapons. And he doesn't care if you don't like the decision, it's happening so stop complaining. Compromise. You know your players like it, but it does limit weapon use. So add drops to the raid that are elemental spheres. Infuse it to a weapon to give it a burn. Everybody wins. - [u]An in-game, looking for group board[/u]. Really guys, get on that. You're a game that dictates all endgame needs teams, but you don't give the players the ability to do that in game. Have a board, or a tab in the menu. Click different activities, add requirements if needed. Players join up. There's no reason people should leave the game to go look for groups. - weekly strike playlist is atrocious. A playlist was a good idea, executed poorly. No reason to have removed strikes from this. Again, community complains about lack of content, [b]you do not remove content. Add to the list.[/b] include all the strikes, make the first strike completed grant you the 9-12 strange coins and 400 rep it did in Y1. There's a huge problem of people not playing this. You join a game, either you start it with 2 people, it even by yourself (maybe they left during loading), or the other guys leave at start/part way through because they just played it 3 times in a row. Bungie [b]did not[/b] implement smart match making like they said they did. - a huge problem now, that sadly a lot of desticles don't see, are the microtransactions and the microtransaction events. They came out, deej himself, when microtransactions were first announced and people data mined out a bunch of stuff that was not just cosmetic (spark of lights), and told the community (who were in an uproar), to not worry, that was stuff left over from pre-release, won't be in the game. And then literally 2 weeks after the Sparks of light were released and bungie didn't even acknowledge it. They also came out (very late) and told the community no more DLC until Destiny 2, instead they'll be having a bunch of "free events". All these microtransaction events do is fuel microtransaction sales. They are not here to do anything other than that. These are not microtransaction events you get in other games where yes, you can spend money if you want, but don't have to, you can still play, have fun, win stuff, get ahead. These are just here to make more money, and do not benefit the player at all. - balancing is just the worst I've ever seen in a game. They have no clue what they're doing. All they keep doing is shifting around which weapon is on top. First it was auto rifles. Then those were nerfed to the ground and hand cannons ruled. Then they were nerfed and pulse rifles reigned. Then auto rifles were back on top. See the pattern? They aren't balancing. "If it's not broken, we'll break it" is a quote many people use to describe bungie and Destiny. When you notice a lot of your players are using one type of weapon and not another, you do not nerf the popular one to the ground and buff the crappy one to OP levels. It's not rocket science. And on the subject of balancing: [b]STOP "BALANCING WEAPONS FOR PVP AND MAKING IT AFFECT PVE.[/b] To free have they nerfed weapons to the ground because they're used too much in pvp, and they become unusable in pve. Example? Vex mythoclass. The end game reward for vanilla, the end all be all. It was powerful, and should've been. But it was wrecking in pvp so they killed in both pvp and pve. There goes the best pve reward. Awful decision making. "Balancing" also takes them [u]months[/u] to do. Literally months. Like every 6 they get around it. [spoiler]This is a quote from "The Ben obiwan", who posted this on a Bungie update 2015/01/22. So far it has 3500+ comments and bumps. At 2500 Bungie hid the post. To show support, and to show that we do want change, I move that everyone starts posting this to the forums, for as long as it takes them to listen. Fill the forums with nothing but these posts!! Force them to hear our voices, and to listen! Change starts with us! Keep this trending people! And make replicated posts! Spread the word of "The Ben obiwan!" [b]Edit1[/b]: the original post is no longer hidden on the update page “The update we'll never get- "We listened to the masses, and are making some changes to the game. 5 million people bought the dlc, so we have plenty of funds to make this game fun again! We are doubling vault space, hell, lets triple it, what do we care? You can now trade your useless ascendant mats for other things, 10 to 1 for radiant mats, 1 to 1 for marks. Survival mode added. Its really fun, and you get more loot the longer you stay alive. Grimoire is accessible in game, so people actually read it. As you complete sections of the grimoire, cut scenes are unlocked, revealing story points, it was always there, we just forgot to put it in. You can now change your characters appearance once a week for 10,000 glimmer. We made some really fun bounties for you to try, because we are sick of the same crap since launch as well. You can now add modifiers to any mission, and complete it for rewards suitable to difficulty. Of course we don't want every single core player looking identical, the outfitter can help. You just need the armor that has the appearance you want and the armor that has the stats you want. Take it to the outfitter with a chunk of some materials or something and BLAM you have sweet, unique armor, it's so -blam!-ing simple, I can't believe we didn't have this in since release. Crota's End sparrow can do tricks. We agree, all those low impact auto rifles and pulse rifles are like shit on a dick. Nobody wants it, so we added some decent/balanced ones. We fixed all them annoying bugs, like the sword disappearing, heavy ammo synth not working, and the Templar random containment fields. Queens Wrath is coming this week. Turns out there is [i]not[/i] a problem with YOUR network, it was OUR problem [i]all along.[/i] lol. Oh, and 5 more strikes are available, just because we are rolling in cash, and we want to thank you, the customer, for being such a sport, and believing in us." But instead Bungie just carry on, completely oblivious to core problems in the game. Why do I look forward to reading this every week? This could get 1000 bumps, it won't make any difference. I don't think they even read the comments. Edit: Lol, ignore it until it goes away. Perfect PR. Oops, should I of pulled that punch? Edit 2: Thanks guys. Obligatory new bump goal: The moon This post is unrealistic, that's the point, but what is unrealistic is not these ideas being implemented, but Bungie actually addressing issues the community reiterates week after week. Some acknowledgement is all we want, but instead we get ignorance. I love Destiny, but I've done everything, I just want to continue enjoying the game.” -the Ben obiwan [b]edit 2:wow!! 3300+ comments!! Plus all the other posts like this!! Keep it coming guardians! Make our voices heard[/b]! [b]edit 3: my fellow guardians, Bungie has taken down all other posts. They ignored us. But we have not lost yet. Keep this bumping and trending folks![/b][/spoiler]

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  • I have no idea about how some of the legal stuff works, but I feel as if there should be some legitimate legal consequences for Bungie about not delivering a product as they advertised it.

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    • True stuff

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      • Well put.....have a bump :)

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        • Edited by I_Bait_U: 2/7/2016 3:42:33 PM
          Bump I couldn't stop playing this game when j first got it a little before TDB, but after taken king I only play for the nightfall but still don't get anything useful, I might just put down till something happens, I've got school, sports, a job, and a gf to deal with destiny used to be where I can go on relax and have fun in pvE and PvP(when there wasn't Sbmm and it was actually fun). It's just been collecting dust really and everytime j think of playing it for pvE I think what am I gonna do grind the same strikes for the same rewards and most likely get nothing useful, pvp am I really gonna go play an MLG tournament and get shot gunned or sniped every corner or corridor I go around or enter. Then I put it back away and just play something else I have some faith in destiny but these update about an update for an update crap and free events is just a waste of time and faith is deteriorating, please fix Bungo I may only have not even 500 hours or 4K grimore but I still am a fan and a member of the well what's left of the destiny community

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        • Bunjie has no respect for its fans and player base. I only play for clan now so they get the raid done weekly after that theres nothing realy to do. Crucible is trash but ib is ok. Shame bunjie wont listen to the fans or even comment on how bad things are getting. Raid clans have dwindled pve players are leaving daily and all bunjie does is send emails to a few players asking why did you leave. For FACKS sake are they facking morons surely they now why. And yes im salty with the way bunjie has no RESPECT for players. Ive enjoyed the experiance of playing destiny as a game and met some top gaurdians on my travels but bunjie has ruined that.

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          • Sing it brother

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            • I have enjoyed the game that I received immensely. But I can't forgive Bungie for failing to divulge the changes they made. They made vidocs and allowed us to believe we were getting one game and instead produced something significantly different, watered down. They decided not to tell us. So, I feel somewhat defrauded. The shame is, they didn't have to, if they had told us the changes I'm confident we still would have purchased the game just as we did. The game is good, it could have been great. They dumbed it down for an audience that I feel they underestimated. Instead of delaying release to make the changes correctly, they served up this hack job and denied there were substantial changes. I won't be pre-ordering Destiny 2 and won't believe anything Bungie says until I actually see it for myself and read the reviews.

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              • Bump! Agree 95%

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                  If the blue flame doesn't return in nightfalls I'd love to see it gave away exclusively on Bungie day 2016 just like in reach on Bungie day 2011 :)

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                • No TL;DR Muted

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                  • I honesty don't want year one stuff back. Been there, done that. Lame The micro transactions have cost me nothing. If you bought something, then that is on you. None of the stuff being offered is needed to play the game. Balancing weapons is fine, I've had no problem completing raids, strikes, etc with the weapons currently available

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                  • Some good stuff in here but, they're focusing on pvp because that's where there player base is at. They can't possibly hope to keep pve only players entertained all the way up to another game/dlc. Although the events are just milking money, it doesn't hurt me or you as long as real content is eventually released. This being the actual problem, the player base has shown to hate bungie secrecy and needs to know what the -blam!- is going on if they want a chance to keep/regain our interest. Plenty of much needed(imo) fixes to pve endgame our being ignored for some reason. At the end of the day tho its bungies problem not ours, they'll either make the game people want to play or they won't and the player base will move on.

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                    • We'll get this update, it's gonna be called destiny 2. Seriously, yall just need to chill out and show patience. A lot of the shit yall ask for cant be done on 360/ps3, which destiny is currently on. When they only focus on the new gen consoles, a lot of shit yall want/ask for will probably get put into the game (or at least something similar). I've said it once, i'll say it again: this is only destiny 1, the first game in a 10 year franchise. Just wait, more is coming.

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                      • It will never happen even with the new ceo there is no grantee the game will get better. a change in ceo's does not always mean better things to come for the players.

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                        • I'm so tired of the crying over Micro transactions. It's not a new concept in games that have come out in the last several years. The PC crowd has had them for years and everyone accepts that you can pay to level up. You still need to aquire gear and spend countless hours getting anywhere near to end game, so who really cares. Next calling these events Micro transaction events is not true. They purposely drop high level items to encourage play. Many of which people desperately need because of the wonderful RNG system in raids etc. You don't need to buy shit. The only flaw I see to any of it is that there is no way to aquire certain items without paying for them such as emotes. Festival of the Lost got it right with the masks IMO because you could either spend money trying to get a mask you wanted or grind for candy. Yes Bungie was called on paying for items that increase drops and they have been true to not implementing that. But other than that they affect no one. Why people are angry about a business putting out a plan to make money boggles me (unless it's Apple, for some reason they are gods but no different than anyone else SMH). You can not like it and not buy them, it's that simple! Yet if you enjoy the game you can still have a great time. And I've said it a thousand times...the only way they'll go away is if people don't give in to them and ignore them. But they won't because many of us adults don't give AF if we spend 5-10 dollars on dance moves that make little kids and grown ups alike salty and some of them are just fun. Then we have many kids who for some reason have free reign on buying shit on x-box or parents cave. Last most gamers are completionists to a degree and "must have all the things." Afraid it's a losing ordeal. So deal with it, they're here to stay in just about any game you care about now days. Just be a big boy, or girl, make your own decisions and carry on smartly :)

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                          • I actually like the emotes for rewards

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                            • Emotes and sparrows are fine for NF. I perfer them...seeing as I have every exotic at 310+ now because of the 3 of coins system

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                            • They have made bulk pvp content and that's good I enjoy it, though what I crave is pve content, most importantly some story action, cause this hole game feels tacked together their is no flow, no plot, I feel no connection to any characters in the game not even my own, give me a story bungie

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                            • Bump

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                              Too many words

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                              • Very good post here!

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                              • Bump

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                              • Edited by TinyRick: 2/6/2016 11:46:04 PM
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                                • BUMP IT TO THE MAX I have previously stated that bungie can't balance only nerf it to the ground. They need to do it little by little, but that will require patience by all you Gaurdians. And about elemental primaries why not make it random. I would say that it would be a good idea. Say I finished a nightfall or raid or something and got...let's say a legendary scout rifle. It could have arc, solar, or void damage. It would be rng based, but it would make it so people could use different guns.

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                                  • They are also still lacking in the Customization department.

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                                  • Bump! I totally agree with your post. I am not a PVP player, and I'm playing Destiny for the PVE content. It has become so stale, and boring. The loot system is a complete mess. I have been playing TTK since release, and have been doing three raids per week, and I still can't get to 320! I miss when nightfall actually mattered, and the blue glow was a mark of achievement. I miss the elemental weapons. My 2 cents is if you have no new content for the foreseeable future, bring back the old raids!!!! Introduce a higher difficulty, and add new loot! That should keep us busy for awhile. Now I just log on, do my three raids, and then leave the game.

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