Putting the pvp random loot generator aside, which incidentally, I believe might not be quite so random - as I believe it rewards those who don't normally play pvp with incentives for trying it. Most players gain their light levels through pve. And there's a lot of people, regrettably me included, who have very little experience of pvp - trying to improve their pvp as they know it's a path to furthering their enjoyment of the game. But I agree, something isn't working as well as it could be. What might help. Is a pvp matching that groups players through their k/d ratios. That way, the skilled guys only ever play against skilled players. And those of us picking it up for the first time, get to enjoy it because we aren't constantly having our asses handed to us... 'walking away swearing that we'll never try pvp again.' That can't be a good thing for the game. Finding a way to ensure players of all abilities enjoy Destinys pvp is vital for it's longevity. Maybe the groupings could be; k/d ratio 0-1 k/d ratio 1-3 k/d ration 3 and upwards I imagine Bungie wouldn't want to spilt players up into too many pools, as it may reduce the numbers in the crucible games. But if that is a problem, I'd rather find myself in a 3v3 or even 3v4 match with similar k/d ratios, than in 6v6 matches with widely different k/d ratios.