Or you could try having "friends" to do this raid with? Just throwing that one out there. If you don't have any friends to raid with after playing this game at all, then you either don't want it that bad, or are an asshole that nobody wants to play with. I'm voting the asshole option judging on your ability to bitch about something here.

Fu*K those idiots. You're welcome to join our group anytime. Decent light and ability to learn/strategize is all we want. We're going to go in at 350-360 light. Skill far outweighs light, in my opinion!

Psst. Form your own groups.

Found more posts in the last few days looking for people who wanted to go in blind than requiring 370+ Then again, some people just like to complain.

Good for you I've yet to find any

Maybe make your own party then? I know it sucks, buy sometimes when you want something you have to make it happen yourself, rather than waiting for an invite. Ran the raid totally blind this afternoon with 355+ and we got to the last boss. If I can do it, so can you.

Good for you Not gonna spend 3 hours sifting through jackasses trying to knit a group together Never did any of the other raids Guess im not doing this one either

I almost feel sorry for you but it's really no one's fault but your own.

It's cool I feel sorry for you too No day job must suck

No, what your gonna do is sit here with all the other sackless wonders complaining that things aren't fair. Finding a decent group is part of the raid experience. You fall at the first hurdle, give up then come here to whine. If you're not prepared to do the work to make a team then your at the mercy of those who are, and if they don't want you its your problem not theirs cos there's a tonne more people trying to find a raid group than there are people actually doing it.

Cause * ton* Incorrect PvE community is known for always over requiring items and LL for various activities. I.E- year one ghorn Seems like you've got hours on your hands to construct a perfect raid team, good for you. Also seems like you've got the time to grind in preparation. We in the working world do not. Cheers and try again.

Tonne is the correct spelling, if you were getting at that; I can't quite tell. The PVE community is known for that because people complain about it on the forums. It can appear that way if you take a cursory glance at the recruitment section or the various group walls. Like anything, actually delve into it a little and its nothing like that and its super easy to find a team. If you could steel yourself to get beyond the initial trawling the forums and just ignore all the dumb requirements from people who don't know what they're doing you can get a raid team together in 20 minutes. Run me down if you want, but I'm a "functioning adult" and I've beat every raid in the first week of release using pickup groups from this site. What you need to know is that everyone playing this game is full of shit. Every other guy "knows" some streamer, and has helped out in their videos. They've run every raid 100 times but when they die its cos they 'usually do it differently'. Last week a 14 year old told me he slept with 30 women in the last month. You have to take these requirements with a pinch of salt. Most teams asking for 360s will accept a 355, when they say they want experience they want you to have watched a youtube video etc. Fact is, there are more fireteams than there are players trying to start a raid right now, every recruitment post has 4 spots open, all the group walls are just the same people posting again and again cos their requirements are so high no ones joining. Just force your way in and get on with it. If they kick you, they kick you, who gives a shit? End of the day, all these guys are taking the plunge and raiding and you're sitting there getting pissed of cos you're not, so whose losing out?

Yep. Haven't tried the raid yet but I had a quick glance at the recruitment section and some of the posts are ludicrous. "Know what yr doing or you'll be kicked" was one particular highlight.