opens up the discussion a bit and makes you think doesn't it
there are things some people just can't explain
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I'm not surprised that a Christians can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.
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[quote]So if I dedicate my life to murdering children they will all go to heaven, and I will go to hell. Therefore by sentencing my soul to eternal torment, I would save theirs. Would that not be the most perfectly selfless act one could commit?[/quote]
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Just remember God was just like "-blam!- IT" one day and killed almost the whole human race
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This was a movie... A scripted movie...
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Haha. Sorry bud. It's a movie. You won't get any respect for that.
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That's not a debate, nor is he strictly speaking an average atheist. This is a hypothetical scenario dreamt up by Christian writers attempting to strawman the atheist position into such a convoluted mess of false emotional analyses, the debate itself and any attempt at a message behind it is meaningless. No intellectually honest person, religious or not, can look at this film and honestly believe it to be fair or in any way good logic. This is like using Ancient Aliens as proof of aliens, except more scripted.
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Theres nothing [i]Intellectual[/i] about Religion.
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http://i.imgur.com/4E5B5Sy.gif
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That's a movie, dipshit. THIS video, however, isn't.
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Great movie. That's the main point: If there wasn't a god, then what is life's purpose? We weren't put on this earth just by mere chance...
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The jimmies
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congrats for scoring the biggest b8 of all time
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Edited by Partarar: 9/23/2015 3:58:53 AMSays atheist gets destroyed in live debate. Person destroyed isn't even an atheist. Rekt. Argument over. Go home now. Also thought I should point out that guy is saying that without God there is no reason to be moral. Glad to know I should go kill people and rob banks. Also said there's no point to live without God. Guess I'll just go commit suicide now. This is retarded. It's awful acting, awful writing, awful everything. The least they could've done is try, and they failed miserably.
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you people are pretty big stupid.
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Nice movie.
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Coming from a christian, that is a movie dude, its not real argument
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Saw the thumbnail and immediately said "nope".
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A doctor saves a life they say "Thank god!" A tsunami kills over 3,000 people and they say "God works in mysterious ways." You're retarded.
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Edited by ClusiveC: 9/23/2015 3:49:12 AMnevermind.
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I got no response at all on my arguments in the thread about god and evil. Smh.
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His whole argument is one big contradiction. If an all knowing God gives free will then he is not all knowing. But if he is all knowing, then we don't have free will.
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Here you go man
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William Lane Craig is known for converting certain atheists and for destroying others. If you take an unbiased look at his debates, then it's rare that he gets backed into a corner. If you want to see a good balanced one that I'd say is a tie, then check out his debate with the atheist philosopher Shelly Kagan about morality. Good points made on both sides.
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Stopped at the idiocy of the "Free Will" argument. By the standards of an Omnipotent deity who knows the outcome of each future even and blah blah blah, Free Will is an impossibility. You can think you have free will. But this God would already know your every decision before you were born. Free Will goes against the concept of the predetermined fate that the Christian God so welcomely declared his decree. That this Deity knew from the moment he created his garden of Eden that Adam and Eve would take from the tree of knowledge and decided that he would cast them out from paradise. That every man, woman and child after would be punished for this transgression. That he would send his own son to teach these children of his greatness and that his son would die. This God already declared that he knew everything. And if he knows everything, then the Freedom of choice is as much a lie as him being a benevolent deity. End of story. Apologetics and Evangelicals are among the most idiotic religious people and that in itself is an amazing acomplishment.
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>Christians > Intellect LOL
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Edited by The_Azazel: 9/21/2015 6:56:39 PMI think this is also a pretty good argument