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Edited by BLOODLTTR:
11/5/2015 7:13:49 PM
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The Great Weapon Parts Shortage of 2015
Beta/Day 1 player with a disturbing amount of hours logged.
23 weapons parts remaining across all characters.
I am now resorting to dismantling gunsmith weapons for a few weapon parts and using the 10 weapon cores I have left over from HoW to buy from Variks and dismantle for parts. This obviously is not a sustainable solution to the problem.
I'd love to know why Bungie nerfed the drop quantity for weapon parts. Having to grind for them only detracts from the enjoyable parts of this game. I'm not able to upgrade and test new weapons because there simply aren't enough weapon parts. Why not just have the gunsmith sell them?
Just trying to raise awareness in hopes Bungie sees our concern and maybe addresses it.
Edit: Bungie has responded. I'd now like that stat to be presented fairly. Please filter results to only include accounts with at least 1 max level character and 500+ hours played. Currently you are skewing hard toward millions of accounts that only played the game at launch week before giving up and moving on to other games. Accounts that are no longer active or used are wholly irrelevant to this discussion.
Edit 2: Bungie has clarified the stat listed below does not include accounts no longer active. The fact that the avg. per account is 26.8 is hugely telling. The players with hundreds/thousands of weapon parts are far outnumbered by those with hardly any. 26.8 average weapon parts per active account spells broken economy.
EDIT 3: Bungie has responded to the Great Weapon Parts Shortage of 2015 in the recently posted Weekly Update. The Gunsmith will soon be selling weapon parts for glimmer. Sincere thanks to Bungie and thank you fellow guardians for responding to the original post.
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Problem solved
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Edited by DidacticRhetoric: 11/4/2015 6:17:56 AMI'm surprised Bungie actually responded to this thread. In response to that message, because the statistic is bullshit: the time period reference is totally different for each stat; one offers a range of 13 months, the other is 3 weeks. Given time, the avg number of weapon parts will significantly diminish for post-patch players. Why even create this problem, Bungie? People who are hoarding weapon parts are clearly still doing it, and probably going to continue doing it, regardless of what you do. It also means that, for the most part, they are not going to affect the economy in the game AND they are not ones affected by the reduction either!
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27 RepliesOk really forum users? This is to all the guardians posting about their plethora of weapon parts. (do you even know what a plethora is?.... Sorry little Three Amigos moment). Anyway, what does you posting about having x amount of weapon parts actually add to the discussion? I'm seeing replies of you guardians having 600, 800, 1000, 3000(!), etc etc. Congrats and kudos. But just use logic to figure out that you are the outliers and extreme outliers at that. The bungie guy that responded claims that the average weapon parts is 26.8... again the AVERAGE. So just to realize how ridiculous this is, just use your number of weapon parts and doing a little simple algebra figure out what it would take to arrive at that number with another guardian for it to be the "average". I'll use 500 for simplicity. So the equation is. (x+500)/2=26.8, solve for x and you get - 446.4! So obviously you can't have a negative # of parts and the average that DrBunsenHoneydew provided is across hundreds of thousands of player accounts but the last little algebraic exercise was meant to show that if the average is that low (and that's per account, NOT per guardian), that means logically there's a whole lot of accounts bringing the average "down" to the 26.8. MEANING that for every guardian with 50 weapon parts, there's one with 4, and for every guardian with 100, 500, etc, there's thousands more with ZERO! So really guys and gals, fellow guardians, no need to rub it in about how many parts you're sporting because it is far from normal. You may have been frugal with them, not gone over the top with reforging during HoW, maybe got lucky and found your "perfect roll" without spending hundreds of parts but I assure you rng sometimes took away hundreds of parts in search of that great roll, probably more if you were stubborn and kept going for the supposed "perfect rolls". Keep in mind there were definitions of perfect rolls for snipers, shottys, rocket launchers, machine guns, etc. If you wanted to try to achieve those perfect rolls with every weapon you most likely spent hundreds and probably over a thousand parts. Have a little empathy for those guardians in that situation. Just my two cents.
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2 RepliesSo people want to make engrahms useless for the most part? I like that you have to find weapons parts, I actually wish it was harder, thus making upgrading a weapon that more important. Why is everyone wanting to make a dumny downed game? I want to get the most out of my game and actually feel rewarded for playing. Why not just give us all the raid gear and just give all weapons and gear already fully upgraded? (Because it defeats the point of playing)
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1073 RepliesEdited by DrBunsenHoneydew: 11/4/2015 1:06:24 PMAverage number of weapon parts for accounts active the day before the 2.0.1 patch in mid-October: 26.6 Average number of weapon parts for accounts active yesterday, Nov 2nd: 26.8 Edit #1: Clarified that this doesn't include inactive accounts and specified dates. Edit #2: Oh god, I've awoken the Hive! A few responses to the various categories of rage: 1) I'm not denying your personal experiences, plenty of people are legitimately low on parts, including me. Just pointing out that the overall trend in weapon parts ownership/usage hasn't changed drastically since the patch. 2) We don't just look at averages when we make these decisions, and yes we're aware of all the issues with using averages. 3) Sorry if the original post came across as rude, that was not the intent. If you want responses from people with actual social skills, you'll have to wait for Deej or Cosmo to respond. :) Edit #3: Day 2, finally caught up on reading 700+ replies.
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8 RepliesQuestions: How many players blew thru their weapons parts seeking the perfect roll for your weapons in HoW? How many people with low amounts of weapons parts used a crap ton to upgrade their Factions??? If so, should the rest of us who were smart with using theirs feel bad for you??
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1 ReplyI have 4 weapon parts.
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We did it!
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5 RepliesShortage is almost over! Banshee will be selling parts by the 26th!
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I am super low on weapon farts
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1 ReplyBUMP WE NEED WEAPON PARTS
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1 ReplyI went to the tower this guardian pm 'd me saying he would "blow me for 25 weapon parts"....
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I'm confused how people are so lacking in parts. Go do court for a ton of engrams! Are you just upgrading everything you find? Remember mores of light to upgrade legendaries to break down into extra parts and more marks. Closing in on 1900 weapon parts here.
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1 ReplyIs it worse than the heavy ammo drought yet?
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Over 2000 bumps, you think bungie gets the message this is actually a problem people want solved?
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The real world also has a broken economy too. I don't have enough money to get everything I want to get. I have to make value judgements in deciding what buy and what not to buy. Often I must put off purchases until I save up enough money. Making money is not easy. I don't know why my boss has such a low drop rate for money. In Destiny, my gun parts being limited is too much like real life. Got to grind for more money now. I need to get some food.
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Really? This is falling way down on the trending. Bungie tinfoil hat theories "they are suppressing our voices! "
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2 RepliesCourt. Of. Oryx.
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Well I have no shortage from day one and beta because I horde them and dismantle almost everything
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1 ReplySo what should be the drop rate for weapon parts? 1) I'm a special snowflake and deserve an excess of weapons parts so they make no significance as an in game currency. 2) I'm a special snowflake and deserve a drop rate so I have enough to upgrade any gun straight away without the need to wait. And a few left over so I can donate to a faction too then bitch about the crap I get in return.
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I would just like to know why Bungie decided to "fix" something that was not an issue. They must not have heard the saying, "if it's not broken, don't fix it". I cannot recall anyone within the Destiny community ever complaining about the weapon drops until Bungie, in their infinite wisdom, decided to "fix" it. Bungie just needs to restore the engram drops to what it used to be before the last update that royally messed things up. If the community is not complaining about something, don't mess with it. I know the players have ideas on what they would like to see to make game playing better, but I have to believe that this was not one of them. With the patch, I am finding it harder than ever to upgrade or infuse my weapons.
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I've resorted to dismantling my year one weapons I have saved in my vault for damn weapon parts... It sucks because now that we have infusions on this game I find my self handcuffed to one damn weapon because of a drop in my light level this game is really start to screw people over
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Edited by RaG nuh RocK: 11/5/2015 9:44:27 AMLets not forget a bread and butter tactic of old that got us weapon parts: Turning in bounties with all green items equipped in order to level them up. Leveled up gear that got dismantled rewarded more weapon parts/armor materials than dismantled gear with no XP. With the taken king, bounties now reward something to the tune of 90% LESS XP for equipped gear than before the taken king came out. Yet another "ninja" nerf to weapon parts that I don't see anyone talking about.
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The only reason the average of weapon parts is going up is because now everyone is holding on to them.
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What it is in a nutshell is the same thing it has always been: Bungie don't want people getting everything to max level too quickly. So they pull shit like this to artificially slow down the grind. And it's -blam!-ing disgusting.
