In light of recent changes to Tripmine I felt we should discuss grenades as a whole, their archetypes and intent. I believe there is and always was a grey area of understanding of grenades in Destiny. It was the changes to Tripmine that made me come to now suspect what Bungie may have orginally intended for grenades. Bungie has never officially stated anything like this, so if Cozmo and Deej would like to chime in that would be great. Perhaps ask Jon Wisenewski (sp?) to see if my post is accurate. Let’s start with identifying the types of grenades: Sticky/Attachable - (Fusion, Magnetic, etc) These are designed to be one hit kill grenades (OHK) on a single target. It can, on occasion, kill multiples if another opponent is unfortunate enough to be standing right next to the blast victim but that is rare. The blast radius of a sticky that misses and does not stick is weaker and does minimal damage to anyone in the area of effect (AoE). These reward precision throwers with the guaranteed kill. Area Denial- (Lightning, Pulse, Spike, Vortex, Tripmine, Thermite, Voidwall, etc) - These are designed to control area and restrict enemy movement. There are degrees of strength in this category (Strong, Medium, and Weak tick damage types). With the exception of Tripmine pre-nerf, none of the Area Denial types were OHK. Yes, I know, some are certainly better than others- (Lightning is quite deadly, Thermite is laughable). But in the end it always took at least two ticks of damage by an Area Denial grenades to kill an opponent. Stand long enough in any Area Denial grenade and it should kill you (I have not tested every grenade so don’t jump down my throat). Tripmine was unique as it’s the only Area Denial with one tick of big damage and, pre-nerf could OHK. Tactical - (Suppressor, Flashbang, Axion, Scatter, etc.) - These are specialty type grenades designed to do unique things, intended to sway an engagement to your tactical advantage. Suppressor and Flashbang are obvious in their use, and something like Axion is used to flush people out of cover. People scurry from cover can then be shot down while they run, take the damage from the Axion and are now weaker for the impending gun battle, or they have to flee and by doing so are conceding the fight. None of these grenades are OHKs. Types like Axion "could" be if both/all Seekers hit you but they can be outrunned so easily and only if you’re the only target in range for the Seekers to track. DoTs - (Incendiary, Firebolt, etc.) - These are designed to place Damage over Time (DoT) on enemies. Primarily to increase your DPS on a target in conjunction with your gunfire but also to delay health regen of your opponent forcing them on their heels to pull back. They used to be OHK pre-update if the detonation of the grenade was right at the feet of the target, but now cannot. Yes, I noticed- I did not include every grenade possible. The purpose of this is to show the archetypes not to perfectly categorize every grenade. Now, knowing the types I hope you can start to see and understand Bungie’s grenade corrections. The OHK type grenades were supposed to only be Sticky/Attachable. Pre-nerf, other types were capable of serving that same purpose while doing other things, and by doing so they diminished the value of Sticky/Attachables. Why carry a Fusion when Firebolt and Incendiary can get the guaranteed kill just the same plus a DoT to deny regen if it doesn’t? Tripmine- an Area Denial type that can also double as a OHK Sticky and even if it doesn’t stick it could still OHK on a trip? Hell yes, I’ll take that. These grenades were getting unfair double value in their usage. All grenades are now properly positioned into their purpose- to augment gunplay. They all do it differently but ultimately that’s their purpose. Sticky grenades augment gun battles the least, because if a sticky connects the gun battle is quite brief. But for something like an Incendiary or Pulse, you hit the target, then need to move in to eliminate the target with your gun to take advantage. Yes, Bungie took too long to correct this. Because of that delay, a lot of people are now so used to their grenades they are upset that the dual-purpose types no longer exist. Dying By DoTs- As we all can all relate, Thorn before it’s nerf was the most aggravating BS way to die due to it’s DoT. This was fixed and Thorn’s DoT now performs the way a DoT should. So why would people expect Incendiary and Firebolt to get a free pass? Death by DoT is a lame experience no matter what delivers the DoT. It makes perfect sense to unify the design of all DoTs to the same purpose- weakening targets, delaying health regen, and forcing opponents on back on their heels to hide and replenish health. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope this can help to quell the uproar over these grenade changes. TL;DR- All grenades have archetypes. Some grenades overlapped into the purpose of others which devalued others. Bungie finally fixed this. Also, dying by DoTs is crap. We hated it during the Thorn era and we still hate it just as much. Now all DoTs are unified in their purpose.