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Edited by bigdaddyt2014:
12/26/2018 12:33:24 PM
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What’s wrong with destiny? We are.
Anyone ever wonder why crucible and everything in general got so -blam!-ed up?... just look in the forums. There’s your answer. The community is the most toxic of any game I’ve ever played including MW2 lobbies. All that is done is complaining and bitching about things that Bungie changed to suit the people who were complaining and bitching last. Examples? OKAY!
Let’s take it back to D1. Crucible. People constantly complain about the rate at which they die, shotguns are an issue, snipers too. They minimize special ammo in certain game types. Okay. Community still freaking out? They remove it from the start of the game in certain game types, but put it on the walls... works decently, but shotguns still being complained about.
Fast forward: D2 release: Slower ttk, shotguns snipers and fusions in heavy.
Community: WhAt ThE -blam!- hApPeNeD tO cRuCiBlE?! WhErE aRe My ShOtGuNs AnD sNiPeRs?!?! WhY iS tHe TTK So SlOw?!
Enter forsaken: faster ttks again, shotguns and snipers and fusions in kinetic and energy slots again. Community has a -blam!-ing mental breakdown.
Some people complain about no incentive for comp? Pinnacle weapons.
Players unable to achieve pinnacle weapons freak. “WhErE Is My PaRtIcIpAtIoN TrOpHy?! NeEd My SaFe SpAcE!!”
Same things happening in pve. Couldn’t have s prestige raid in CoO because players who didn’t own the content couldn’t play the content (cus that would just be crazy)
Want to know the must -blam!-ed up part of destiny? It’s us. We -blam!-ed up the game we loved by not letting the developer do their thing. We complained about the way everything was and then complained when they gave us what we wanted. Yes Bungie has made mistakes in destiny: and made good decisions too. Should have left shotguns in the heavy slot (if that means snipers and fusions too, so be it), higher TTK is probably good, content that is included with a dlc doesn’t need to be free, just because you can’t get a gun due to lack of skill doesn’t mean it’s a problem with the gun itself(I will never have not forgotten I don’t think, and yet I know it is not an issue), if you’re playing a team based game mode (comp) expect to face teams (I do get the frustration, I did fabled completely solo, and they could try to prioritize solo que against solo que. like I said there’s things they can do better).
Here’s the last thing I’ll say: negative feedback while still feedback is in and of itself toxic. Instead let Bungie know what they are doing right, and what could be improved without acting like your world is ending and destiny is causing it.
#honestytime.
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No problem is Bungie screwing up and is just doing what ever they can to please the D1 fanbois. Shotguns and snipers specials again ? OK Bungie should have seen that shotguns where gonna be a problem especially since they got 10 meter OHK ranges and the maps are tiny. Pinnacle weapons ? They are a bloody mistake period. No arguing pinnacle weapons need removed from the game. Bungie tried to do their thing in Y1 but D1 fanbois complained how it was to different and cried and cried till it was the same and here we are and look at that shit is still f*cked. Maybe D1 wasn't as great as the fanbois remembered.
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7 RepliesNo, Bungie's laziness is what's wrong.
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TLDR? PVP is the source of toxic.
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You are*
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6 RepliesAmazing so if I disagree with you it’s toxic, according to you. I’m not a dev. I made the mistake of giving D2 a chance. It’s been inconsistent since launch, something changes every few months with no rhyme or reason. I was still grinding for exotics and armor well into CoO, year one was their design choice not ours. This is a feedback forum, not a game creator forum. The best ideas are still out there.
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Should be a voting system in place. Upon log in you get to vote on an proposed change. To keep people from abusing it, you must have reached a certain point in the game to vote. These forums should never be the basis for any change.
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Spot on! The majority of people on this community spend more time crying than getting good. The worst part, they don’t really know what they’re asking for.
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I have to have a lot of respect for one of the few people that doesn’t just come here and whine after losing their third competitive game in a row. You are right. Bungie has done things wrong, but in a fundamental level most of the ‘issues’ we have floating around here are more than trivial. Personally, (and honestly) I come here mostly to laugh at the silly things people complain about. However, you’ve done it. You said something honest, and reasonable. Kudos to you, and let’s start with the constructive criticism guys.
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4 RepliesBungie has screwed up a lot, but you’re right.
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16 RepliesAbout the pinnacle weapons, the issue is obviously the fact that they exist. I'm serious, it's fine to want to chase something if you're a top players but when matchmaking in QP allows for those same players who have those pinnacle weapons to play against those who don't? That's unfair and shouldn't be happening, it breaks the game, it becomes something people despise. Every choice Bungie make is their choice. Doesn't matter why they make the choice, it's their choice. They COULD minimise the issues several ways we've all pointed out and requested for YEARS but they won't. Instead they let people point the finger at each other rather than at where the issues begin, bungie. People want to chase pinnacle weapons, they get the weapons and then they no longer have something to chase so they go to QP where they know they will stomp people courtesy of bungie. They won't stick to comp because it's super sweaty at the top, naturally. Why should anyone suffer in QP for the sake of someone who wanted something to chase?
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Mhm. Unless the feedback is needed. It should never be forced though, unless the company is ignoring the populace.
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^this. The literal only reason I keep coming back to this forum is in a usually failed attempt to correct stupid suggestions and to give a voice that doesn’t constantly complain about how op something is or whatever other idiotic screeching is spammed into the forums on a constant basis. Bungie has made decisions inspired from players feedback. Then they complain and give bungie shit about it. Rinse, repeat
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1 ReplyThis is the sad brutal truth man. Some of the issues surrounding the game are due to us. Everyone likes to blame Bungie for the shitty nerfs or the weapon slot changes, when in reality it’s the -blam!-ing “community” that’s the problem. I could go on about the forums and the “community”, but in short this isn’t a community. It’s a cesspool of hate and toxicity. -blam!-s sake I don’t know how a developer at Bungie has flown off the handle yet on Twitter. I don’t know how they deal with the shitshow of the cesspool.
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2 RepliesWhile I don't think bungie are completely innocent and some changes have been questionable I do agree. People complain about RNG, even though the game is clearly is and always has been a looter shooter, I mean it's not hard to understand how it works....hint....it's random. It is the most useless forum I've ever been a part of but still read for the 1 in 20 decent posts where you can offer some help or advice that isn't some random kid crying cuz he can't get an exotic, people need realise it's just a game FFS.
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THANK YOU! Someone else in this community gets it! Also to add: it’s perfectly okay to criticize the game if it’s needs improvement, just leave the immature attitude behind, it’s not necessary.
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Edited by Sturm with no Drang: 12/27/2018 9:35:31 AMWhile all are fair points, I would yet dare contest the idea that perhaps the issue isn’t actually the community, but rather Bungie itself. While I doubt any individuals who were around during the pre-Destiny B.net days could recollect the past forums, I could see how the dev teams from Bungie have taken a backseat on quality in order to push their game(s) out and crunch down numbers for better profits in order to please their higher-ups and publishers. Even now, we still see remaining issues that detract a quality experience from the game and have yet to be brought to attention from anyone else higher on the ladder than the Community Managers, and that’s saying something since B.net is supposed to be [i][b]their[/b][/i] website. That in mind, when those issues take so long to be addressed or properly looked at and given proper work on instead of a quick and easy peel-and-slap patch, how could folks not get pissed about that?
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Thanks for existing
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He's right. In every game I've ever played online where the devs actually listen to the community and try to appease them, the game gets totally jacked up. And the players who ask for this crap? They are never happy when the stuff is implemented. What happens in the end is, the game we started out loving so much ends up being something completely different from what we started out with, and we move on to another game. Not to mention the community becomes increasingly toxic.
