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Never seen the community more Unified

Edit: Please read entire post and edits before telling me how stupid I am lol. I said never SEEN...speaking for myself. Sunsetting supers has been a huge rejection already from the community. I would even argue more so than sunsetting weapons. The sunset of weapons is over with...no point in complaining anymore...however...On those post against sunsetting I did see people in favor of it or making a case for it. However with sunsetting supers...I have yet to see one post for it. Honestly BUNGIE don’t do it. The rationale and reasoning behind it is just not there. I think people are starting to realize that nothing is safe anymore. Exotics will be next to come I’m sure if Bungie really does Sunset supers. I hate to even consider it but if the super sunset comes...I really might be out of here. Luke Smith...I have no idea what you are thinking with this. It’s starting to really seem like you are trolling the community at this point. Please prove the haters wrong and come out and say you aren’t going to do this after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with coming out and admitting a mistake. Sunsetting supers will be a huge mistake. After that it’s going to be exotics...sad times. It’s going to do more harm than any good. Don’t sunset supers. The community is making it extremely clear that this is a no no. Admit a mistake was made with this idea. It’s okay to be wrong. Listen to your Guardians. If you are even considering or pondering sunsetting exotics...stop...right now. Bad Idea. Edit: After waking up to a ton of comments it would appear I’m just an idiot and clearly haven’t seen the Forums unified. I have also found those that are for Sunsetting supers lol. Suppose there will always be an opposing opinion. Sorry for the title of the post I guess 2nd Edit: I would also like to say thank you for all of the upvotes and responses. Good discussion going on in some places. I would also like to plead ignorance when it comes to some topics you guys are saying were MORE unified in the forums. I had not seen these post as I just recently in the last few months really started using the forums. These topics you guys are citing I did not see. Also for those saying “oh just these forums are saying this” etc. Thats not true. Have been quite a few posts on Reddit as well as YouTube and streamers in agreement that this is a bad idea. I believe a few articles have been published as well reinforcing the same idea. 3rd and Final edit I swear: I am NOT opposed to tweaking the existing light subclasses and setting them up like the Stasis subclass. I am all about adding customization and more options for people. No issues there.

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  • If the past can be a predictor of the future, I suspect super sunsets are already baked into the cake. They're just trying to ease us into it well before we need to spend more money on the next season. Just a guess...

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    • I'm not sure what's giving the community the idea that this game is run by a democracy. Bungie will do what they feel is best for the game and have shown this repeatedly in the past. And to be fair to Luke in this case, he seems to be talking about something that would eventually have to happen if they were going to unify the supers and make them like the stasis model. He's not saying this is something that's going to happen next week. People whined endlessly about weapon sunsetting but people seem to still be playing and I personally think the game is healthier for it. People need to stop complaining about Destiny while still logging in 30 hours a week. If you don't like the direction the game is going you're free to take your time and money elsewhere.

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      • Edited by TheArtist: 12/18/2020 3:41:28 PM
        Unified in showing that we can’t handle transparency. Smith shows us the respect in giving us a seat at the table as an idea takes shape....and we panic. [i]Fix your game Bungie....but don’t change it.....[/i] As a warlock main, half of my supers are unusable. And only two of my subclasses are end-game viable. WTF are we fighting to protect? Supers that no one uses? WHY??

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        • The real question is, is it enough? Will this stop Luke Smith from doing what everyone or at least almost everyone, hates. Or will everyone continue to support them with their heads down and continue the cycle.

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          • I'm seeing a lot of posts against the changes Luke Smith has forced on the game. I've started a poll to see just how many people agree with us. Please head over there, give it an upvote, and a answer so as many people see as possible.

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            • Luke is not asking for approval, it’s being done. But it will be badly implemented like everything in this game.

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                It's actually more unified when we heard about sunsetting, the entire forum is shitting on it for weeks but bungie get what they want they do, don't fight, they always do, we don't have a voice, don't pretend we do

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                • Just sunset D2 and make D3.

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                • Edited by Hairycaballs: 12/18/2020 10:26:06 PM
                  Supers aren’t getting sunset they are getting reworked and plus he said it’s not happening any time soon Personally I’d stop worrying about the future and enjoy the game and if you can’t don’t tell everyone about it[spoiler]this isn’t meant to be toxic by the way, hopefully by “tweaking” the supers they let you mix and match the perks we currently have because I wound mind having bubble with shield bash[/spoiler]

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                  • Im for sunsetting garbage supers, who even uses nova warp or bottom tree dawn breaker? Who uses nightstalker or mid tree arcstrider? Who uses sentinel or mid tree sunbreaker? These supers have no identity or pretty much any use in either pve or pvp because there are far better options. If bungie removes these useless supers and gives players the choices we have no with stasis on top of buffing the heck out of whatever supers they decide to keep, thats a far better option than what we have right now. Im all for customization, leaving light based subclasses how they are right now is terrible, just look at how fun it is to run stasis? You can make whatever build you want which is exactly what I want for light based subclasses too.

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                    • I think Luke Smith needs to stretch this game out as long as possible to keep profits coming in, so they can pay for whatever new IP they are currently working on. I think because Destiny was not released while [i]he[/i] was director, he doesn't care as much for the title and this has filtered down through the ranks. I think he sees this game for what it is; which is an opportunity to enrich himself and the company, in order to fund the [i]current[/i] Bungie's next big project. I think they all see it as a stepping stone to something else, and the players of this community are just the mortar.

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                        In 2030 we'll be able to play destiny 3 on iphone 24 with 0 carbon emission

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                      • Bungie: We heard you want less content with your extra content. So here you go. Me: Finally! Thank you so- wait what did you say? Bungie: We heard you wanted less content with your extra content. So we took out Dawnblade, Sentinel, and Arcstrider for this season and you're gonna have to pay $10 to see how you get them back. 😃 Also Bungie: Oh by the way, if you don't have Beyond Light you can't play in VOG. Vex Mythoclast? More like Vex Gimmeyocash first please. Want Hawkmoon, but you don't have the season? Hawkmoney please!

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                        • This game mirrors the Taco Bell menu. I'll bet Luke goes to Taco Bell...a lot, like more than you'd think even. By the tenth year of their ten year plan they will have created a game with no content but still find a way to make you grind for it.

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                        • I stand! (well...sit here at my desk behind my computer screen)...unified with you, my fellow guardian!!! This sunsetting is nonsense and out of control...I took a long break from Destiny 2 because of it. Plenty of good games out there right now, both on PS4 store, and Steam depending on how you play D2. I caved when I saw Beyond Light for sale, and I gave it a go. The pve is okay. The sights of Europa on PC are really impressive. Stasis is nonsense for crucible. I've been playing for about a week and I'm almost half way through the season pass. After this...no more money into this game (I've said before :( but this time I mean it...I'm sure.) Sunset supers and exotics, and I will sunset Destiny 2 from my computer SSD.

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                          • I’ve been telling all of you. You’re going to rebuy them because they will be updated and included in a new season. Get ready to take back lost planets and acquire supers that were once lost.

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                          • There’s people defending super sunset. There’s a huge difference between rework and sunset

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                          • Honestly some supers need a rework. Some are just terribly design to the point where any major buff to them makes them broken and any major nerf makes it broken( nova warp) and some are just always gonna be busted like spectral. Like why does spectral actually last longer while invis. I feel it should be the other way around where choosing to go invis should have a price and not just straight buff and positives

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                          • I think its a bit of misunderstanding about what is going to happen. Top tree and bottom tree of pretty much all subclasses could be combined and given customization similar to stasis and we would have a better system than we do now.

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                          • Ideally they'll steer as many as they can to 5G/6E gaming, where the expenses are far less, so they can profit more and more. Bungie is FAR more about greed than you may ever realize.

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                          • Rather than sunset, why not add the modification system the darkness has to the light? Allow for switching supers and elements instead of the railroaded version we have

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                            • I would love to see changes in the light subclasses to match stasis, BUT DON'T TAKE AWAY SUPERS!!!

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                            • ❤️ Luke Smith

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                            • [quote]Edit: Please read entire post and edits before telling me how stupid I am lol. I said never SEEN...speaking for myself. Sunsetting supers has been a huge rejection already from the community. I would even argue more so than sunsetting weapons. The sunset of weapons is over with...no point in complaining anymore...however...On those post against sunsetting I did see people in favor of it or making a case for it. However with sunsetting supers...I have yet to see one post for it. Honestly BUNGIE don’t do it. The rationale and reasoning behind it is just not there. I think people are starting to realize that nothing is safe anymore. Exotics will be next to come I’m sure if Bungie really does Sunset supers. I hate to even consider it but if the super sunset comes...I really might be out of here. Luke Smith...I have no idea what you are thinking with this. It’s starting to really seem like you are trolling the community at this point. Please prove the haters wrong and come out and say you aren’t going to do this after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with coming out and admitting a mistake. Sunsetting supers will be a huge mistake. After that it’s going to be exotics...sad times. It’s going to do more harm than any good. Don’t sunset supers. The community is making it extremely clear that this is a no no. Admit a mistake was made with this idea. It’s okay to be wrong. Listen to your Guardians. If you are even considering or pondering sunsetting exotics...stop...right now. Bad Idea. Edit: After waking up to a ton of comments it would appear I’m just an idiot and clearly haven’t seen the Forums unified. I have also found those that are for Sunsetting supers lol. Suppose there will always be an opposing opinion. Sorry for the title of the post I guess 2nd Edit: I would also like to say thank you for all of the upvotes and responses. Good discussion going on in some places. I would also like to plead ignorance when it comes to some topics you guys are saying were MORE unified in the forums. I had not seen these post as I just recently in the last few months really started using the forums. These topics you guys are citing I did not see. Also for those saying “oh just these forums are saying this” etc. Thats not true. Have been quite a few posts on Reddit as well as YouTube and streamers in agreement that this is a bad idea. I believe a few articles have been published as well reinforcing the same idea.[/quote] To your credit dude, you made your point and then reflected on the discussion as it has unfolded. We need to be having more constructive feedback like this on the forums where we discuss issues and respect each other's input. Belittling each other and attacking posts just exhausts issues. Posts where as a community we can debate perspectives is dialogue Bungie can measure productively.

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