And in a few months when pulse rifles are nerfed and scout rifles are buffed, I’m sure you’ll be complaining about them. Get over it, this game has meta cycles. Either go with them or go against them and use what you want. Either way, suck it up and move on. I say this as a bad player regardless of what I use.

And quite honestly, at this point in this game, the devs give no shits about any of this. They are just doing the grind till they get fired. Game population is collapsing, and people are fed up with the lack of a working game....you actually think they care about bolt charge or redrix at this point? They wont touch it for fear of more people walking away from the game. Same reason cheaters are everywhere now. They pay for the game so they are exempted and ignored no matter how bad they cheat. I submitted a report with video showing a player flying, unlimited heavy over a month ago....right now hes still doing it streaming all over the net. They dont care. The game is over and they are just looting the last of the players for pennys.

Who cares?? Get the weapon, enjoy the pinnacle feel to it or don't get it and die to it. So what?? It's a game, get some perspective. You are looking for balance and this game will never be balanced.

It doesn’t need a balance the bxr can do the same from xur. Its just that know one took notice because they were using frosty. Which allowed you to run the same special they been using. Plus if you don’t have a crafted bxr already more then likely that person wasn’t going to suffer through lfg. Also the other reason why it has so much kills on it is because everyone from casual to sweat can obtain it with ease. Plus regardless of perks overall stat wise it’s a good weapon of choice. Unlike 340s where one perk can make a big difference.

Fusions as well, are not okay.

Every pulse needs a nerf.

100% agree, it's definitely overtuned, and especially with all the bolt charges going on... Worst meta in years.

Its fine only with titans and that shild is it a problem.

It’s just the new and shiny rn. A battler with KC is exactly the same. Only thing really annoying is Bolt Charge in PvP. Needs to be disabled.

I just leave the match. I don’t care what happens from that point on. Unbalanced weapons = terrible experience. So why hang around for it? I also don’t care about what some random has to say about me leaving.

It's a layered problem I think...and one of the problems is the maps..even if all guns were balanced..it would boil down to map design and average engagement distance...so no matter what, the meta will show favor to specific gun types regardless of individual play styles...in short with no true diversity in maps there will be no diversity in engagement distance leading to a lack of diversity in pvp meta... outliers not withstanding anyways....

It should have gotten the last word and dead man's treatment as it greatly benefits being fired from the hip as well. Would love to see the difference in use between the 3 classes.

On paper, Crimson HC is one of the top HCs in the armoury. The same goes for Redrix’s Eso. However, in Trials - especially, and in IB, too - reality is somewhat different. This 0.3% old tortoise switches guns around to ones that seem to constantly shred me from afar…through walls and rocks…and that appear to ‘never miss’ in the skilled mitts of the SUS Ninja Brigade warriors, who are also able to perform incredible feats of circus trickery and space magic, that simply boggles the mind!? 😵‍💫 For example, compare the ‘on paper’ stats of Chattering Bone / Outbreak Perfected with the new Redrix’s Eso - nothing comes close…and yet, SUS Ninja warriors sprinkle some magic space dust on them, and voila - they become 1- or 2-round ‘never miss’ guns! 🧐 But when I switch to them - no change from the expected norm?! The same goes for a whole slew of other weapons, too?! 🤔 I saw one invisible Warlock who, when not invisible, had a constant overshield, and was using a Crimson HC like it was a hybrid sniper-HMG…and it never missed, even during teleports or doing unbelievable ‘in air’ 180 degree spins!? 🤨 Of course, it must be due to lag/latency…😉 As one poster in this thread opined: ‘it’s not the weapon…it’s the X and C warriors…that make all the difference!’ 👈 There’s a mighty difference when one is up against a high tier player, who would shred with a KFS (knife/fork/spoon), as opposed to a SUS Brigade Ninja monkey, armed with more magic space dust than an asteroid field… 🧐 And anyone who has played for a while, knows it, too! It ain’t the gun…it’s the user! 👈👈 Moving on… FWIW: what I’ve found works best for this old tortoise, is a pulse / scout or sidearm mix, between primary and secondary slots, as required. ✅ When on my T, that lightning bolt barricade is a hoot. When on my H, I go ‘on the prowl’ though rarely utilise it to its max. potential, mostly just using the invisible dodge to escape or revive a teammate. Haven’t used my W yet…but I lit will happen! 😁 Conclusion: Stop with the nerfs! Buff the weaker stuff! And ‘fix’ the blatant X and C magic space monkeys! 🙄 Anyhoo, that’s just my take. YMMV That is all. Ease Springs! 🫡 MDGA

Not bothered. I just carry on using auto rifles and getting pretend killed doesn’t bother me. I get just as much enjoyment getting my own kills my own way. Who needs meta???

Thats always the problem and it's never addressed till months later unless it's game breaking cause they need people to want to farm for it. It'll stay as it is till Bungie decide its had enough.