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Could a "normal human" wear and use Spartan-III armour?
I'm not so good with such things, could someone please tell me?
Would I be able to use III-armour to the full extent? Or do I need special chemicals in my body to interact with the armour? Would it kill me if I tried anyways?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos dude mark IV is just Mark V ithout the shields read the description of mark V in reach [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GrnDragn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]SPI hasnt been seen in any game and is only in the books, ie everything is mjolnir[/quote] Halo Wars Spartans wear Mark IV Mjolnir. Reach and CE Spartans wear Mark V, halo 2 and 3 spartans wear Mark VI. SPI is on the cover of ghosts of onyx book, but is not in any games.[/quote] Funny thing is they screwed up Mark IV armor in that game sooo bad. Heck, it looked like Mark V and has shields to boot! Sure, it's "for gameplay", but I'm always on the lookout for breaks in canon. :p[/quote][/quote] Halsey's Notebook sure did fool me then. 'Cause it had noticeable differences.
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dude mark IV is just Mark V ithout the shields read the description of mark V in reach [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GrnDragn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]SPI hasnt been seen in any game and is only in the books, ie everything is mjolnir[/quote] Halo Wars Spartans wear Mark IV Mjolnir. Reach and CE Spartans wear Mark V, halo 2 and 3 spartans wear Mark VI. SPI is on the cover of ghosts of onyx book, but is not in any games.[/quote] Funny thing is they screwed up Mark IV armor in that game sooo bad. Heck, it looked like Mark V and has shields to boot! Sure, it's "for gameplay", but I'm always on the lookout for breaks in canon. :p[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GrnDragn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]SPI hasnt been seen in any game and is only in the books, ie everything is mjolnir[/quote] Halo Wars Spartans wear Mark IV Mjolnir. Reach and CE Spartans wear Mark V, halo 2 and 3 spartans wear Mark VI. SPI is on the cover of ghosts of onyx book, but is not in any games.[/quote] Funny thing is they screwed up Mark IV armor in that game sooo bad. Heck, it looked like Mark V and has shields to boot! Sure, it's "for gameplay", but I'm always on the lookout for breaks in canon. :p[/quote] A: Master Chief, when he got Mark V armor, could not tell the difference between his old Mark IV and the new Mark V until it was put on. (from a distance he thought it was the same armor until he got close enough to see it was new). B: It was one of few gameplay elements which are non-canon(In cutscenes they had no shields), and simply for balancing. Just like how a plasma rifle doesn't melt an army trooper's face off in Reach like it would in canon. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fwoooooosh no they couldn't, even s III's are given syrum that makes them impervious to pain, they are slightly augmented. the "twitch" factor inside a suit would mean any normal human would start to move their arm with a "twitch" at which point the suit would exaggerate it and well... shatter your arm, and whatever it hits. save with any movement in the suit. [/quote] You sound like you don't know what you are talking about. Spartan 3 armor is 'officially' SPI. Their trainers used it (aka, normal humans.) however, it didn't boost reflexes, strength, or provide the protection Mjolnir did. [Edited on 01.01.2011 9:22 AM PST]
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In the book Ghosts of Onyx it describes SPI armor as better than kevlar has stealth platting with active camo helmets look are EVA styled and they are leaner that Mjolnir. And are in NO GAME TO DATE.
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no they couldn't, even s III's are given syrum that makes them impervious to pain, they are slightly augmented. the "twitch" factor inside a suit would mean any normal human would start to move their arm with a "twitch" at which point the suit would exaggerate it and well... shatter your arm, and whatever it hits. save with any movement in the suit.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]SPI hasnt been seen in any game and is only in the books, ie everything is mjolnir[/quote] Halo Wars Spartans wear Mark IV Mjolnir. Reach and CE Spartans wear Mark V, halo 2 and 3 spartans wear Mark VI. SPI is on the cover of ghosts of onyx book, but is not in any games.[/quote] Funny thing is they screwed up Mark IV armor in that game sooo bad. Heck, it looked like Mark V and has shields to boot! Sure, it's "for gameplay", but I'm always on the lookout for breaks in canon. :p
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]SPI hasnt been seen in any game and is only in the books, ie everything is mjolnir[/quote] Halo Wars Spartans wear Mark IV Mjolnir. Reach and CE Spartans wear Mark V, halo 2 and 3 spartans wear Mark VI. SPI is on the cover of ghosts of onyx book, but is not in any games.
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[url=http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/4/46/SpartanIII.jpg&imgrefurl=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Semi-Powered_Infiltration_Armor&h=505&w=520&sz=75&tbnid=V5d-6NdGXhqhIM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dspi%2Barmor&zoom=1&q=spi+armor&usg=__T3RTG7Rj8xL-AXjTfrBgI9znhus=&sa=X&ei=vl8fTfPFK8SBlAeQ5qGtDA&ved=0CDIQ9QEwAg]SPI Armor[/url] [url=http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/f/f1/Halo3MC.jpg&imgrefurl=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor&usg=__yR61-odUvx0bjAyk2IQuunbx-_s=&h=1024&w=496&sz=119&hl=en&start=0&sig2=wpdI5ek-GOYv_4b7Fm5WRQ&zoom=1&tbnid=5tZJRVW0dy2MCM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=61&ei=AGAfTcPXGYG0lQfF-OHFCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmjolnir%2Barmor%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D526%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C155&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=584&vpy=95&dur=3608&hovh=323&hovw=156&tx=87&ty=207&oei=5F8fTd78CYSdlgfw4IjcCw&esq=3&page=1&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0&biw=1366&bih=526]MJOLNIR Armor[/url] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote] 1. Go read Ghost of Onyx. 2. You never see SPI Armor in any Halo game. Ever. You only see Mjolnir Mark IV, V, VI, and all of their different versions. [Edited on 01.01.2011 9:11 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?[/quote]SPI hasnt been seen in any game and is only in the books, ie everything is mjolnir
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How do i know what armour is Mjolnir and which is SPI? Anything Mark IV/V/VI, etc. is Mjolnir, anything else?
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Exibit A!!!- Carter was being augmented in the live action trailer they showed for Reach.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 Yes. I am talking about SPARTAN III (3) armour. Could a normal human without the "manipulation" and chemicals wear the III-armour and use it to the full extent??[/quote]as has beeen said only a spartan can use mjolnir mark 4+ wether this be a spartan II like george or MC or kurt, spartan II can however use the mjolnir like in the case of noble team. spartan 3 armour is SPI it hasnt been seen in game but is described extensively in the book Ghosts of Onyx although it is used exclusively (as far as we know) by the spartan 3's other humans can use it as one of the spartan II (memory fails me which one might be kurt) says he saw ODST's testing the originals so yes to answer your question humans can use spartan 3 standard issue armour but certainly not noble team's or any other mjolnir variatns
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hotrod192 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lolmenade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BigLanceLS Spartan IIIs wore different armor than Spartan IIs Spartan IIs were augmented to make them bigger, faster and stronger. They were given armor that enhanced these abilities even further. Putting a regular human in Spartan II armor is fatal to the user. [b]Spartan IIIs were unaugmented humans who wore different armor than Spartan IIs. Since Spartan IIIs were "regular" humans, than a "regular" human could wear their armor.[/b] Spartan IIIs are very different from Spartan IIs like Chief and Jorge.[/quote] False. [i]The SPARTAN-III program was both the successor and supplement to the SPARTAN-II program. Created and engineered by Colonel Ackerson of the Office of Naval Intelligence, the SPARTAN-III soldiers were to be the next generation of supersoldiers. Composed primarily of vengeful orphans from fallen colonies,[1] they would be cheaper to arm, train, and produce;[/i]-Halo Wiki[/quote] This. I don't mean to sound rude, but I'd recommend you read Ghosts of Onyx again (assuming you have before). There are several chapters that happen during the augmentation processes of several Spartan-III groups. The Spartan-IIIs actually had better (safer) augmentations and they all survived the augmentation processes. However, they were trained in a much shorter period of time if I remember correctly, and were trained to work as a group a lot more than the Spartan-IIs. Once again, if I remember correctly, the Spartan-IIIs didn't meet the genetic criteria as well as the Spartan-IIs did, which explains why they aren't as strong, fast, etc...[/quote] Some, not all. A good many matched the genetic requirements of the Spartan 2 program, with ones like Noble Team being mentioned as ones Halsey would have picked for Spartan 2's. Medical advances allowed the augmentations to be better, unlike some people who believe Spartan 3 augmentations are weaker and Noble team wore mark v[b](which is only a helm, they think it is an entire suit) armor. About training, it was shorter, but better. With Mendez and Kurt heading the training they knew what to teach and how to teach it, allowing for more knowledge in a shorter time.
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To settle this Spartan IIs wear Mjolnir armour Spartan IIIs wear SPI armour the only known Spartan IIIs to wear Mjolnir was Noble Team. SPI armour is no shields but are active camo and the Drill Instructors wore the armor to train Spartan IIIs. So yes normal humans can wear SPI armour. No Human without Augmentation can wear Mjolnir it would kill or cripple them
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I'm going to go read my Dr. Halsey journal...
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nahh it would kill you cause it would wiegh so much.
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sure i think
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BigLanceLS Spartan IIIs wore different armor than Spartan IIs Spartan IIs were augmented to make them bigger, faster and stronger. They were given armor that enhanced these abilities even further. Putting a regular human in Spartan II armor is fatal to the user. [b]Spartan IIIs were unaugmented humans who wore different armor than Spartan IIs. Since Spartan IIIs were "regular" humans, than a "regular" human could wear their armor.[/b] Spartan IIIs are very different from Spartan IIs like Chief and Jorge.[/quote] Dude, what the [i]hell[/i] are you talking about?! You don't know Halo's story very well, do you? Read Ghosts of Onyx! Spartan-IIIs were given safer augmentations than the Spartan-IIs were. Spartan- IIIs were cheaper versions of the Spartan-IIs. They commissioned by Admiral Ackerson, a strong critic of Dr. Halsey and her Spartan-II program. S-IIIs may have had cheaper augmentations and less criteria to meet, but they were trained in less time, given weaker armor(SPI) and were naturally weaker[b](debatable)[/b] and far more expendable than their Spartan-II counterparts. Still, they were damn good Spartans. [Edited on 01.01.2011 9:09 AM PST]
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SPI? Not sure as that one was basically ODST with active camo plating. MJONLIR? Nope.
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then why do spartan 3s suck bad
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lolmenade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BigLanceLS Spartan IIIs wore different armor than Spartan IIs Spartan IIs were augmented to make them bigger, faster and stronger. They were given armor that enhanced these abilities even further. Putting a regular human in Spartan II armor is fatal to the user. [b]Spartan IIIs were unaugmented humans who wore different armor than Spartan IIs. Since Spartan IIIs were "regular" humans, than a "regular" human could wear their armor.[/b] Spartan IIIs are very different from Spartan IIs like Chief and Jorge.[/quote] False. [i]The SPARTAN-III program was both the successor and supplement to the SPARTAN-II program. Created and engineered by Colonel Ackerson of the Office of Naval Intelligence, the SPARTAN-III soldiers were to be the next generation of supersoldiers. Composed primarily of vengeful orphans from fallen colonies,[1] they would be cheaper to arm, train, and produce;[/i]-Halo Wiki[/quote] This. I don't mean to sound rude, but I'd recommend you read Ghosts of Onyx again (assuming you have before). There are several chapters that happen during the augmentation processes of several Spartan-III groups. The Spartan-IIIs actually had better (safer) augmentations and they all survived the augmentation processes. However, they were trained in a much shorter period of time if I remember correctly, and were trained to work as a group a lot more than the Spartan-IIs. Once again, if I remember correctly, the Spartan-IIIs didn't meet the genetic criteria as well as the Spartan-IIs did, which explains why they aren't as strong, fast, etc...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BigLanceLS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lolmenade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMR NYM No. The spartan armors broke normal human bones on movement.[/quote] This, and the fact that you need special augmentations to control the suit. I think in one of the books the first time Kurt(SPARTAN-051) tries on the suit and attempts to salute he hits his visor and bruises his hand. Then it says that if his bones weren't reinforced from the augmentations his hand would've easily snapped like a stick.[/quote] If you read that book you should know that Spartan IIIs are significantly different than Spartan IIs.[/quote] There is no significant difference. The same augmentations were used but have been modified as to make sure no deformities or anything of the sort occurred. The armor is just cheaper because there was a larger number of SPARTAN III's than SPARTAN II's.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BigLanceLS Spartan IIIs wore different armor than Spartan IIs Spartan IIs were augmented to make them bigger, faster and stronger. They were given armor that enhanced these abilities even further. Putting a regular human in Spartan II armor is fatal to the user. Spartan IIIs were unaugmented humans who wore different armor than Spartan IIs. Since Spartan IIIs were "regular" humans, than a "regular" human could wear their armor. Spartan IIIs are very different from Spartan IIs like Chief and Jorge.[/quote] No, spartan-IIIs are bio-augumented too (project CHRYSANTEMIUM)
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spartan 3s didnt have enhanced skeletal structures or muscles
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DataBase90 Yes. I am talking about SPARTAN III (3) armour. Could a normal human without the "manipulation" and chemicals wear the III-armour and use it to the full extent??[/quote] Spartan III's were cheaper made and trained less, but the principle would still be the same about the armor system, although they would be EXTREAME life threatening pain, you might survive the experience. though not liekely [Edited on 01.01.2011 8:56 AM PST]
