actually the arbiter knows hes alive thats why he says " if it were so easy." so that means that it isnt easy ti belive hes dead

Good analysis, but anyone could've concluded that. Let's face it, THIS Halo trilogy is over. It's all there, in the game and those "Believe" t.v. ads; it's all telling you this trilogy is done. But, there is still this Peter Jackson project which is rumored to be another Halo trilogy or some Halo series outside of the 'Chief story, but no one can be quite sure

Yes, but the Ark was destroyed, which theoretically means the *new* Installation 04 is destroyed. *Again*. Unless there is an ARK Rebuilder I'm fairly certain that it isn't Installation 04, but then again I'm going to watch that cutscene again with your theory in mind.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheTruthOfAllTru Johnson is not dead... Pure & Simple... Halo 2 he was invincible, Halo 3 he could die, but get back up. If 343's laser could kill him WTF... He could take a mauler blast to the face & Live. Why not a laser? 343 ain't dead because... He just isn't. He is to cool to die.[/quote] The Fonz will also never die. Ayyyyyyye!

Johnson is not dead... Pure & Simple... Halo 2 he was invincible, Halo 3 he could die, but get back up. If 343's laser could kill him WTF... He could take a mauler blast to the face & Live. Why not a laser? 343 ain't dead because... He just isn't. He is to cool to die.

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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShadowOblivionX i disagree with some of your points. Most likely all of the covenant race is not destroyed. This is not the ending to the the halo series even though they say its a trilogy. Just remember star wars. The legendary ending is an extreme give away that there will be another halo game because that planet is Onyx. If you read the books you'd know that thats where all the other spartans are. Gravemind did not control the flood. If you would pay attention to the story, gravemind is a flood that has evolved into its own mind. All the other flood have minds borrowed from their hosts. The death of a gravemind doesnt turn the flood into their infection form. gravemind has influence on the flood but doesnt control them.[/quote] I don't believe the planet was onyx. In the books, onyx is mostly deserted, except for where the spartans were training and the secret zone. The planet from the scene looked very populated, with lots of lights, very industrial looking. Even if it were Onyx, I believe that ending would lead into a BOOK and not another game. As far as new games go, I wouldn't mind seeing something with the chief again. It could be a marathon remake. I've heard people say marathon and halo aren't the same universe, or that marathon and halo happened hundreds of years apart, or that marathon and halo are the same story told differently, but eh, who knows. Its not like bungie has never changed the rules before. I think it would be a fair assumption to say most fans of the halo games never played marathon and know nothing about it. I know I don't. Another Halouniverse I wouldn't mind seeing is a game about gray team from the books. They're off outside of UNSC space on a secret mission. If they're so far away, the game would basically be started on a clean slate where anything is possible. It would make for a good squad based shooter, or 4 player co-op. Anyways, just my $0.02

i didn't think this up someone else did but id like to hear thoughts..... does anyone think the end is the beginnng of marathon? chief/cortana are never found, she dies, but MC hibernates in his tube for the few hundred year time period (between halo and marathon) until his ship lands on marathon. Thats what the "planet" at the end was. Remember the hero in marathon cant really remember who he is, but knows that he is a cyborg supersoldier? Bungie has alluded to them being the same character as well. This just seems like the most badass/twilight zone type theory. Chief saves humanity twice! I know theres a lot of other things that it could be but thats what im going with. thanks for wrapping all that stuff up by the way. Yeah with truth, mercy, regret, and tartarus all dead, the majority of religious leaders killed on high charity, and their huge military defeats in H3, i can totally see why the covenant species would just say "screw it" and go home [Edited on 10.08.2007 6:51 PM PDT]

If you were dumb enough not to heed the warning in the Topic Title, this is a bunch of spoilers all at once! Be careful! This is not confirmed but it is a widely-accepted theory: Johnson was part of the Spartan I program. Chief would have known that, and should have acknowledged it in the game....give us some kind of lead-in to [i]Contact: Harvest[/i]. It should have been brought forward in the story of the game as to how he survived the first Halo. To be honest, I am a bit disappointed in the way that he died. Yes, it was unexpected. Yes, mostly everyone wanted to take a Spartan Laser to 343 Guilty Spark. But he could have gone out in a much more Johnson-esque way. I also understand that you really have to work at the gamers' feelings when you deal with battles like that. Killing Johnson there was the straw that broke our backs in regards to our feelings towards Spark. I feel like Miranda's death came at a strange time as well....I honestly did not feel as much of a connection to her as I did to Johnson, even with her father being the loyal and daring Captain of Halo: CE. The books really do bring a whole different level to the story, and I recommend that you pick them up and read them. Cortana's lines in Halo 3 really were all call-backs to the novels and were excellent in the beginning. I simply was in the mood for a story that catered more to us hardcore fans than one that merely highlighted a few things from the Halo universe that most of the people that play the game aren't privy to.

SEQUEL!

That puts my mind at ease and until told otherwise I will believe this because it the easiest thing to do.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prayer350z SPOILERS BELOW, DONT READ UNLESS U HAVE BEAT THE GAME OR DONT CARE. --I did not write this, this is someone elses thread-- Please someone copy and paste this on Halo3 forums (here, at b.net) I'm banned. ANd I have some valid points So some people don't like Halo3's ending, the level and the story ending. Really most of the points they have make no sence. So let me explain, if you didn't know. Story-The story, the War ended. What else is there, what do you want Chief to land on some planet full of apes. All your enemies are gone, Earth is safe, well the entire Galaxy was. The Covenant-The Covenant was destroyed. The Elites destroyed the Brutes/Covenant fleets. Half Jaw said "Truths fleet lie in ruin". So the Brutes, Hunters, Grunts, Drones and Jackals got owned. The Elites got those races in the Covenant, and Ironicly they took them out too. So no more covenant. They have no leaders, little to no ships or soildiers left. Even if some lived they would be too weak to do anything. The Flood-The Flood, or Gravemind was killed, blown up. Yet to clarify the flood didn't really die. You just killed there leader, and a few million of them. The Flood still exist, just like the Covenant. But not enough to do anything. As long as nothing is dumb enough to get infected the flood will be no threat. When Gravemind died the flood went back to there primitive stages. So that means the flood can no longer drive, or repair ships. Chief - Some wanted Chief dead, some did not. Bungie gave you both. Chief did live, but no one on Earth knows it, if you watched the last cutscene you'd hear what lord hood said I remember how this war started, what your kind did to mine, I can't forgive you but you have my thanks. For staying by him until the end, Hard to believe he's dead . The Elites and Humans assumed he was dead. Earth will remember Chief, as a hero. And thats why the ending was so sad, Chief could be in space for ever, he might never be rescued. Now before you go "OMG LEGENARY WTFF". Yes I know, but just because he's going towards a planet doesn't mean he's rescued. Yet I'm sure the planet will show up in some BOOK!. Why no big battle?-There was, Not at the very tip ending, but there was a big battle. On top of the control room when a few hundred Flood were storming you. That was an epic battle, and the big battle before you killed Truth, and the other few big battles. Plus having some big battle at the end would be cliche, worse if Chief died fighting. Why didn't we protect Earth? Because Earth isn't the center of the universe. The Ark was way more important, and not just the Ark the entire Galaxy was. You did save Earth, and the Galaxy. Better to save everything, then just one thing. Plus you did destroy that AA Battery, which made Air travel safer. Either way you did save Earth, you just saved everything else with it. Why did Johnson Die? Johnson died because he lived wayyyy too much. Which is also why he died in such a "weak" way. He lived the flood, an explosion, tons of battles. What better way to kill him them the most unlikely way. We don't need him being killed by some huge Brute....which would be stupid. 343 isn't a weakling, His armor is stronger then yours, probably be a few 100x. Johnson was also Chief "friend" and killing him was an emotional trip. Because Chief and Johnson were close to each other. Now Chiefs friend died, but he died a hero. Why did they have a boss battle? I don't know, I think it's because they wanted 343 to die, but not in some cutscene. I think everyone wanted to kill 343 since Halo1, and bungie gave it to you. What the ---- was a racing on at the end. Platforms that is not halo! Well it is. The Platforms were part of the UNFINISHED HALO. Didn't you notice the large gaps. Those platforms are what make Halo, thats the core "bone" of it. The dirt, rock and sand are placed on top of that. Those platforms are under any Halo you've ever been on. What Halo is that? Easy, it's the Halo you destroyed. The Ark makes Halo's, And since there is suppost to be 7 Halo's it will remake them if needed. The Halo was not done, but was getting close. So there, I explained it.[/quote] NO one would need to explain anything if people werent so retarded.

Also, the MC is officially classified as MIA, not dead. The military does not acknowledge the death of a Spartan. They do this in order to keep up the appearance that Spartans are invincible, in order to give humanity hope.

i disagree with some of your points. Most likely all of the covenant race is not destroyed. This is not the ending to the the halo series even though they say its a trilogy. Just remember star wars. The legendary ending is an extreme give away that there will be another halo game because that planet is Onyx. If you read the books you'd know that thats where all the other spartans are. Gravemind did not control the flood. If you would pay attention to the story, gravemind is a flood that has evolved into its own mind. All the other flood have minds borrowed from their hosts. The death of a gravemind doesnt turn the flood into their infection form. gravemind has influence on the flood but doesnt control them.

thanks

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] moochkin i agree with what youve said there but do you think that the ark is actually destroyed?? as all you see is the new installation 04 firing (which results in its destruction) but it was a fair distance above the ark and nothing of that was actually seen to be destroyed. just a point to add :P[/quote] Cortana actually says that the explosion "Did a number on the ark," but its true, that doesnt mean that it was in any way completly destroyed. Good post tho btw [Edited on 10.08.2007 6:19 PM PDT]

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i agree with what youve said there but do you think that the ark is actually destroyed?? as all you see is the new installation 04 firing (which results in its destruction) but it was a fair distance above the ark and nothing of that was actually seen to be destroyed. just a point to add :P