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Social Justice on the college campus

Article: [url=http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid][b]"I'm a liberal professor, and my liberal students terrify me"[/b][/url] I realize that there's no dearth of circlejerking here about how SJW's are [url=https://xkcd.com/725/]literally[/url] bringing about the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe]heat death of the universe[/url], but it can still be useful to throw in a perspective that's actually valid. Our professor talks about how this new conception of social justice has affected the student-teacher dynamic, as well as things like campus events. The classroom should be a place of open discourse and beliefs that are challenged, but there's pressure on professors to present material that simply won't offend anyone; otherwise, there can be real consequences. Ultimately, this new identity politics is damaging to everyone involved. [quote]So it's not just that students refuse to countenance uncomfortable ideas — they refuse to engage them, period. Engagement is considered unnecessary, as the immediate, emotional reactions of students contain all the analysis and judgment that sensitive issues demand. As Judith Shulevitz wrote in the New York Times, these refusals can shut down discussion in genuinely contentious areas, such as when Oxford canceled an abortion debate. More often, they affect surprisingly minor matters, as when Hamsphire College disinvited an Afrobeat band because their lineup had too many white people in it. ... At the very least, there's debate to be had in these areas. Ideally, pro-choice students would be comfortable enough in the strength of their arguments to subject them to discussion, and a conversation about a band's supposed cultural appropriation could take place alongside a performance. But these cancellations and disinvitations are framed in terms of feelings, not issues. The abortion debate was canceled because it would have imperiled the "welfare and safety of our students." The Afrofunk band's presence would not have been "safe and healthy." No one can rebut feelings, and so the only thing left to do is shut down the things that cause distress — no argument, no discussion, just hit the mute button and pretend eliminating discomfort is the same as effecting actual change. ... If we wish to remove this fear, and to adopt a politics that can lead to more substantial change, we need to adjust our discourse. Ideally, we can have a conversation that is conscious of the role of identity issues and confident of the ideas that emanate from the people who embody those identities. It would call out and criticize unfair, arbitrary, or otherwise stifling discursive boundaries, but avoid falling into pettiness or nihilism. It wouldn't be moderate, necessarily, but it would be deliberate. It would require effort. ... Feminists and anti-racists recognize that identity does matter. This is indisputable. If we subscribe to the belief that ideas can be judged within a vacuum, uninfluenced by the social weight of their proponents, we perpetuate a system in which arbitrary markers like race and gender influence the perceived correctness of ideas. We can't overcome prejudice by pretending it doesn't exist. Focusing on identity allows us to interrogate the process through which white males have their opinions taken at face value, while women, people of color, and non-normatively gendered people struggle to have their voices heard. But we also destroy ourselves when identity becomes our sole focus. Consider that tweet I linked to earlier, from critic and artist Zahira Kelly, in which she implies that the whole of scientific inquiry is somehow invalid because it has been conducted mostly by white males. ... Debate and discussion would ideally temper this identity-based discourse, make it more usable and less scary to outsiders. Teachers and academics are the best candidates to foster this discussion, but most of us are too scared and economically disempowered to say anything. Right now, there's nothing much to do other than sit on our hands and wait for the ascension of conservative political backlash — hop into the echo chamber, pile invective upon the next person or company who says something vaguely insensitive, insulate ourselves further and further from any concerns that might resonate outside of our own little corner of Twitter.[/quote]

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  • It's a shame that an environment which ideally should be free from such politics is instead being more and more bogged down by them. Open discourse is necessary for academia to function well, but a lot students don't want to be challenged anymore, and the faculty isn't taking a stand for those that do. How do you counter such a situation? Does it run its course?

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    • Editado por Harlow: 6/3/2015 11:18:23 PM
      blah blah help i'm being oppressed because people think i'm a dick blah blah Giving a serious response to this only because I'm incredibly bored. As a radical progressive myself, there are a couple of major problems I have with these "debates" about bigotry and what have you. Hopefully you can try to put yourself in my position as a 24 year old graduate who genuinely cares about my friends (and strangers!) who are affected by these issues far more than I am as a straight cis white guy. Firstly, and this one is more personal than it is a logical operation, I get tired as shit about having these conversations. I live in the deep south, I literally can't go one day without hearing something openly racist, homophobic, whatever. It's taxing, and I don't want to discuss it every moment of every day. I can't tell you how many times I've just read something online or heard something in person and just rolled my eyes and tried to pretend I never saw or heard it, because it's genuinely depressing to be aware of just how shitty the world is. I don't want to "debate" these things because I've already spent years doing it. Mind you, I have the privilege of feeling that way. A lot of people have to live that shit every day from the first person perspective and the Seven bless them for being able to continue trucking through life. Secondly, the not so personal reason. People aren't entitled to a discussion about someone's identity (in the case of Caitlyn Jenner). You can whine all day about how the liberals are redefining this that and the other but at the end of the day, your opinion on someone else's identity is IRRELEVANT, and I can't stress that enough. You can hate trans people all you want, you can say awful shit if you want. It just makes you a dick, it doesn't mean that anyone, trans or ally, is obligated to sit down and try to explain shit to your stupid ass. You can say all you want that abortion is murder, but you don't have the power to stop any woman from doing what she wants to with her body. No woman or ally is obligated to explain to you why they should get to do what they want to with their own body. In short, [u]you are not entitled to a debate or an explanation about anything that doesn't impact your life, such as someone's identity or life choices.[/u] This internet backlash against "political correctness" is just a manifestation of guilt, and I know how it feels to be guilty. I used to be a pretty big shithead myself, and luckily I've grown up a lot. People need to stop taking requests to not be a dick as personal attacks.

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      • This is an article that Google now gave me a few days ago. College SJWs always seem to be the most idiotic ones.

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        • [quote] white males have their opinions taken at face value, while women, people of color, and non-normatively gendered people struggle to have their voices heard. [/quote] I was mostly agreeing until this. Isn't this the exact opposite of what's going on?

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        • I want to puke every time I read about a student that demands "safe spaces". If you can't get through life hearing different opinions, go apologize to a tree that is working very hard to produce oxygen that you seem to be wasting. Lol.

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        • I'm offensive and find this feminist

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        • It seems crazy that he would have to worry about losing his job because someone got offended.

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          • This offends me.

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