Wow.
I was more correct than I thought, Bungie really did take away far more from Destiny than they expanded in a bid to force people to buy their shit-tier DLC. Read [url=https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-The-Taken-King/en/News/News?aid=13546]09-15-2015 Destiny: The Taken King[/url] for all the info.
But let's get on to some of the finer points:
[b][u]General[/b][/u]
[b]Character:[/b]
* Max level cap is now 40 (Requires The Taken King [but we knew about this -blam!-ing since last week]) [so, if you don't buy, you're forever stuck at level 34. More on all that has been removed from you will be listed below...]
* Even if you're a Y1 "Founder", the "founder's Fortune" reward [b](Requires The Taken King)[/b]. So, if you've been here since day 1, but didn't buy TTK, Bungie has nothing but a huge middle finger that they're going to shove up your butthole. You time isn't worth shit to Bungie if you don't give them more money.
*Spark of Light - ... I won't even crawl into the bullshit of this one. Needless to say, it (Requires The Taken King) *I swear, that follows after most every -blam!-ing line in their change to this game...*
[b][u]Classes[/b][/u]
[b]Subclasses:[/b]
* Your "new sub-Class", you know, the one that's had an empty slot reserved and present in the game since the Alpha? Yeah... (Requires The Taken King)
[b][u]Activities[/b][/u]
[b]Vanguard Strike Play Lists[/b]
*All of the Strike playlists have been removed. If you don't buy TTK, you're left with one (1) Strike playlist to enjoy. That's it. Just one (1).
*The Legacy Strikes don't even reward you with Legendary Marks. Nope. The [b](requires The Taken King)[/b]
[b]Daily Heroic Missions[/b]
* Required Level: 40
* (Requires The Taken King) I'll bet you saw that coming by now. Still, for those people who liked to do the regular missions on a slightly tougher level, it's gone. Locked behind the pay-wall. So, that's more content gone.
[b]Nightfall[/b]
* discussed in-depth over the last two to three weeks, Bungie has -blam!-ed you out of yet more content that you already paid for. Needless to say, but I will anyway: "I -blam!-ing told you so, haters."
[b][u]Crucible[/b][/u] Here's where it gets really good...
* Year 2 Crucible is now in effect.
* Remember all of those different play lists that the PvP crowd [u]used[/u] [u]to[/u] [u]enjoy?[/u] (Requires The Taken King) Surpised? I don't know why you would be at this point...
* Year 1 players who don't buy TTK are left with only three (3) play lists. "Classic 6v6, Classic 3v3, and a Classic FFA (Free For All). That's it.
* No Control, No Clash, Skirmish, Salvage, Rumble, or Elimination. All of those (Requires The Taken King).
So... did you leave [u]anything[/u] to Gamers who won't buy TTK, Bungie!?
Answer: No. You left a hollow shell of a game in order to force people into buying your content lacking DLC.
Now; there will be some people who'll look at this list and see it as "look at how much Bungie is offering with TTK, Vampire!!! You're insane for making Bungie's butthole's collectively pucker with your incessant ranting!" However; aside from a pathetically small Campaign, The Court of Oryx (which is where the [b]real[/b] Elitism will begin), and an armory that is three-times smaller than what they took out from the Base Game, TDB, and HoW; all of these things [b]WERE ALREADY IN THE GAME!!![/b]
They just took away most everything in the game (easily two-thirds of the base-game and DLC content that you've already paid for has been ripped away from you) and placed it all behind a new pay-wall.
All of this was already there. You've already paid for it. They took away content that you were enjoying all the way up to yesterday, and stuck it behind a pay-wall. You must pay more money to enjoy 2/3's of the game that you've been enjoying for the last [b]YEAR[/b].
Anyone want to doubt me now on how badly Bungie has been -blam!-ing over all of their Gamers?
Because I've been warning everyone for quite some time now. As have great members of this community like CarnivalLaw, Malphisto, Lost Sols, N7, Mortargrunt06, and the list goes on. We've tried to educate you and warn you all. Our eyes have not been clouded by Bungie's fog of lies and trailer-hype. We've tried to get the word out, and now everything we've warned you all about has become all too true.
Here's my contributions to trying to warn you all before this travesty arrived:
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/151304767/0/0]Bungie; Shrinking Destiny one DLC at a time.[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/152464390/0/0]Weapon Imbalance 2.0 is an abject failure.[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/149031707/0/0]Lies, Hypocrisy, no Accountability; the Bungie Mission Statement.[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/145589175/0/0]Urk explains the TTK pricetag.[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/144107620/0/0]Destiny, The Taken Wallet, and GameInformer.[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/127526404/0/0]Bungie is forcing their revenue streams to leave Destiny.[/url]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/126951271/0/0]Isn't it funny how much equipment was removed in these "expansions"?[/url]
And I could dig even further back into even more archived threads I've made trying to warn everyone. If I included the threads of the other Forum members that I've mentioned, this list would go on for [b]days.[/b]
But The Taken King is here. The game and activities you've already paid for ha had 2/3 of it's content eviscerated and disemboweled, then put behind a pay wall that you have to shell out another $40 USD to enjoy that content (that you've already paid for). Bungie has taken Destiny and turned it into an ocean a thousand miles wide, yet only a foot deep.
When will you all see what Bungie is doing?
When/what will be "the straw that breaks the camel's back"? How long will you accept consumer abuses that are being heaped upon you in this manner?
Think on that, and discuss it below.
Sincerely trying to educate the Gamers around me,
Vampire Nox
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Bungie, if you're reading this, PLEASE give us our content (which we already paid for a year ago) back. And also please remove the level cap for non TTC owners. Capping us at 34 makes pretty much all of the vendors and everything new we get unuseable. There's absolutely no reason to [i][/i]reduce [i][/i] the amount of content we currently have because we didn't pay for some new DLC.
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You people have no idea how business' work do you, the 2K sports games have been doing this for over a decade, but worse, they claim to make "improvements" every year that just make everything worse. On top of which, nothing is being taken from you, all the content you had is available, you just can't participate in activities that require level 40. Nightfall is a managed weekly end game activity, it's pretty standard to not have access to end game activities without the newest edition of an MMO-type (which destiny is). In the end these DLC's seem to be a substitute for having a monthly subscription fee, or pay to win micro-transactions, like most MMO's, and that sucks that destiny is that kind of game. like I said, this is a business, and they want your money, give to them or don't, your choice.
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Editado por Drunken Swede: 9/16/2015 12:53:45 AMBungie and Activision have no idea what they are doing. Beyond constructing an overhyped wallet sucking vampire of a ramshackle franchise. The more I look in to Destiny the more I see a disorganized schizophrenic mess of a '10 Year Plan' that increasingly strays further from what the fanbase truly deserves. I am incapable of being content with whatever it is they think they are doing. Bungie lauded Destiny as being [i]the[/i] video game to have. It was supposed to be Bungie's super game to bring their name in to the top of the gaming mountain but it is nothing more than a shallow cash grab which only provides a mediocre experience. I've decided to trade my game in for credit towards something else that I know will provide a reliably entertaining experience for a mere fraction of the cost.
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I blame Activision, not Bungie. Activision are the money loving -blam!-s, and Bungie needs to get the -blam!- away from them.
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Just a quick question...if Bungie worked on a additions to a game after you purchased a base version, why shouldn't they be paid for the work they did? I.e, why do you that purchasing vanilla destiny pays for all the work up to that point and into the future? About removing content...well they can't be expected to maintain everything. Whatever though man. Best of luck on your pyrrhic crusade.
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There isnt really a grey area here, either you believe they stole content, and locked it behind a paywall, or you believe they have every right to paywall whatever they want. If you believe its unfair that they locked players out, you HAVE to regard them as crooks. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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Editado por Thane: 9/16/2015 3:09:02 AMWait until the anti-consumer "consumers" arrive, unfortunately some people just love getting shafted.
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Long post my friend, But still....BUMP!
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I wouldn't have believed it. Surely there would be some way to increase your level past 34 without BLAMMING TTK! But no way no how! Stuck in unplayable Limbo! More than the $80, I wish I could get the time spent back!
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Editado por cake IoI: 9/16/2015 2:43:44 AMyou could not say it better.. where is the game I paid for? somehow it doesn't exists. I just started the game up saw all this BS and quit the game.
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You make great points here, and while its nothing to applaud Bungie for, they did add some great things if you do indeed buy taken king. Its becoming evident that destiny is leaning towards a subscription sytle to play which is why if you dont buy ttk, bungie/activision dont want you around sadly
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Well said.
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Bump, that was a perfect summary.
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I have the taken king but to see all the stuff they won't let you do is kind of bad. It was like that for all of us last week and it sucked. Gotta admit though, the guy has a point. There's no reason why Bungie couldn't let people do the strike playlists or crucible stuff.
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Requires the taken king
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Well said
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also you can only buy the collector's edition or the legendary edition because you can only buy the taken king alone if you have house of wolves and the dark below WHICH IS SO STUPID
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Welp, Time to head back to gamestop and try to get a refund, or just trade it in for a better game. Maybe MGS or JC3 when it comes out in December. Might as well use a garbage game to at least damper the cost of a quality game. My time on the bungie forums is done. It was nice reading the others and your posts of truth and honesty. It was hillarious when the fan-boys came in and started trying to argue against your points of truth. It just shows how dumb they are to be arguing against truth. Seeing as something that is true and completely concrete cannot in anyway be argued against. Such as gravity, who in their right mind would argue against the truth that a thing called gravity keeps us from flying out into space? Welp, that is basically what the fanboys of this game are doing. The only reason I went on the bungie forums in the first place was to give them constructive critizism about their balance and to potentially help them make Destiny a better game. But, it doesn't matter anymore. Not buying any future games with the words "Bungie" on it. Unless Bungie completely changes itself and rebirths from their ashes a whole new company that cares about their community and players, that also creates QUALITY over quantity. Only then will i give one of their games another try. But, until then, byebye bungie and good riddance. You had a few great games in the past, but you just ruined all that with one contract and one game. No wonder why people left them.They should of never signed up with Activision the way its going right now. Why and how did they think signing up with Activision was a good thing? Good job keeping your head in a community filled with pests that hunger to try and prove you wrong. I have seen barely any constructive criticism in this community. I tried posting in these forums a few times, just glad I didn't hurt some fanboys feelings cause I honestly would of went off on them. Possibly see you some other time. Those times being when I start developing games with a team, or developing my own games with my own company. Constructive feedback and criticism is important. I would like to keep these mistakes of a once great developer in mind when the time comes when I am creating games so I do not do the same mistakes.
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It's so hard I didn't buy ttk all my friends did! I didn't have enough cash! I hate the way that Activision and bungie are screwing every penny out of players I wanted to wait and see if it would be better than the last bullshit but now I can't play most of the game but I don't want to spend 40 pounds only to have them give it away free in a couple of months and find the content had no life to it! At the moment I'm considering leaving permanently which is a shame as I enjoy the game
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Bump and there is this. ... Destiny TTK rating 4.5 out of ten currently. http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/destiny-the-taken-king/user-reviews
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Why are you so mad.