It’s ridiculous. I got a warning for mentioning the names of devices in one of my posts and the post was deleted. The game is unplayable. PvP is literally the most disgusting, horrible sht experience I’ve ever had in any game ever. Whatever happens to B, they had it coming. Big time.

I've never heard of this. Cheating is cheating, and I'm not calling it anything else but scum of the earth.

I’m beyond tired of it. So obvious who is using these soft cheats. Yet Bungie doesn’t do anything. Literally hundreds of thousands of these devices sold. More people than you think are using them

I completely agree with you. There's just one problem: Bungie has made it clear multiple times that they just don't care.

100% Its even worse than blatant cheaters, I actually find it somewhat amusing when i see a guardian flying around with a sidearm shooting at a million rpm at least the guy is not hiding it and they know they’ll get banned But those pesky cheaters with hardware and software cheats who try to hide it are the ones who get on my nerves they’re the worst

I don’t see a difference anymore as far as I’m concerned every player that soft cheats is the same as people that hard cheats there’s literally no difference

I report, I see him next game, I report, I see him next week, I report, i see him next day

I wish bungie actually cared about cheaters in this game but they to scared to actually ban people because of how low the population is

Oh it's definitely cheating. Honestly the funniest part is like 90% of people that use those devices are still complete garbage. However it literally is soft cheating. That's not downplaying it. It's just the correct term. Soft sheating is still cheating. 100%. The soft part doesn't mean "acceptable" or "excusable" in any capacity. It's just used to distinguish between things like scripters/input modifiers and things like walls/actual aimbots.

Strict sbmm in all aspects of pvp would fix this ,that way adapter users are put in lobbies against each other most of the time ,whilst the major majority of legit players will be put in lobbies against other legit players . Bungie has always had there own janky versions of mm that never work because they are too busy listening to the top% whine about having to try hard in pvp which generally speaking you should have to if you earn the spot to be in the top% also bungie let them chat rubbish about having to wait an extra min for mm to find a game was bad lol. It's about time bungie got rid of the stone age mm and did the same as more up to date games have done and that's sbmm I only say this because I know full well bungie will never ban adapter users since alot of the top% of pvp mains use them

You sure these people aren't just better than you?

For the console folks that call for anticheat....i don't think you can have an anti cheat because you cant run 3rd party software in the background. The anticheat bungie put in is for PC only. The most people can do is run 3rd party devices for MnK, net limit, or a modded console or controller. I haven't heard of modded consoles in a long time, but they were big back in the halo days.

It is soft cheats because it can’t turn a burger to a god. You can still beat someone on a device.

[b]1) Prioritizing Cheats [/b] Cheating is cheating, but it makes sense to target the most egregious cheats first. For example, I can't necessarily tell when someone is using a 3rd party device, but I can IMMEDIATELY tell if someone is flying around the map with infinite heavy ammo. Even though both are cheats, one has a more significant impact on the game outcome. Bungie should fix one before fixing the other. [b]2) Difficulty to Detect [/b] I don't know how these kinds of cheats are being banned in other games, but I was under the impression that 3rd party hardware is difficult to detect. We cannot hold Bungie to a different standard than we hold the rest of the gaming industry. [b]3) Misinformation Regarding 3rd Party Devices[/b] Lots of players attribute things to 3rd party hardware when it is likely not (or at least, not likely to be) the culprit. Not many players seem to understand how they function, so there is a lot of paranoia and false reports. I wish players would educate themselves on how these devices work, so they can better protect themselves and the game. STOP BLAMING EVERY LOSS ON CHEATING [b]4) Where is the line?[/b] Lots of things give a player an advantage. A better monitor, a better PC, a better controller will all help the player A LOT in PVP. Why are these things allowed but 3rd party hardware is not? (I am simply playing Devil's Advocate - imo, the answer is that the only distinction is that Bungie said it is cheating) [b]5) Down With Cheaters [/b] I added this for clarity, because the above statements make it sound like I countenance cheating, and I do not. Cheaters should be banned no matter what, because the game would be better with no Cheaters. Period. I don't even understand why cheating companies are allowed to exist as they are. It seems like they should be illegal

Bungie needs to ban everything that can even be considered cheating. I'm for overdoing it at this point. If you didn't cheat, appeal the ban and get reinstated. Plain and simple.

My favorite is the constant spamming fast crouch-stand shot/strafe left and right perfect head shots in .0001 seconds peaking around a corner 🤣. You can tell the difference in the frequency of it for who's using just button/macros and someone with IMD

Funfact: Even podcast like DCP have members that use Chronos. It's not the girl just in case anyone is wondering. No I will not call out the one who uses it. If you follow him specifically he does actually mention it at one point. He said it's not a big deal since he does not play PVP very much lol