Just watched the teaser... some reactions. Possible spoilers in my theory.
I heard Aztecoss call the Conductor the "original" Witchqueen.
If you ever watched the Price is Right, when the bidding rounds happen... if someone bids with a price you think is good, though shady, you just add a dollar to your bid.
Where Cross got that idea from? Byf or Myelin, probably. That adds a dollar to my theory.
I predicted all of this, including that the narrative would place in opposition the Conductor vs. the Gardener. Where we would be manipulated into believing
[spoiler]Maya is evil. She is not. She is corrupted.[/spoiler]
The Vex are dying. Remember what we initially thought we knew about the Elikisni? Remember the Amhakara?
That tech that shot into the core of Nessus is draining the Radiolaria, that tech came from the Gardener. Vex need Radiolaria to live.
The Conductor is creating their House of Light, this is the connection to Mithrax... trying to create an independent order of Vex that doesn't need Radiolaria to survive.
In the same way Mithrax led the fallen after they lost the light of the Traveler and were starving to death.
Whatever is at the core of Nessus, if we obtain it and use for the will and purpose of the Gardener, that is a mistake.
The Vex are doomed.
When we first met Osiris in D2 during CoO... we saw the future of Mercury, we saw a definitive "Endless Night" in an instance where Sol, the sun of our galaxy had been extinguished.
Drained of its Radiolaria (Mercury)... terraformed into a hellscape we believed, we were told, was created by the malevolent Vex.
We also once thought, the Fallen were evil... the Cabal were a monolith of primal invaders. That the Wishdragons were "one note" 🎵.
Were they? Why did we think that? What was the secret Mara "whispered" to Brother Vance on Mercury? Why was Mara using Vance, how was she?
"Look to the Future"
That's the song 🎶. The conductor doesn't create the composition, but she...
.... can show us that there is an alternative arrangement to be played.
That is her purpose. In opposition. This is the connection to the murals on Neomuna and Esi's Veil Containment logs.
[spoiler]Maya sacrificed herself, to show us how to change the beat.[/spoiler]
Soteria is the "rug"... or if you don't know that film, the "conductor's baton".
Whoever Cross got the idea of the Conductor being the original Witchqueen... is just adding a dollar to my bid. It's smart. However, I predicted this exact mistake lore scholars would make.
We're being manipulated. The Conductor is not our ally... but like the Eliknsni, the Cabal, the Amhakara... we're confused on the details.
We learned very little about the "good"...
[spoiler]Maya... but we will. She's on one of Cayde's guns. The lore implies he loved her. There's murals on Neomuna showing her as the Madonna... she saved and protected those people.
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Will it be too late, once we do? My fear is yes 👀.
😇 👍💠
Some attribution for reference:
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbVtLnJiS8E]A Garden World | Approach 2nd Security Protocol: "How The Vex Won Mercury" | Curse of Osiris[/url]
credit: Destiny Lore Vault
This is directly related to what's going on. We were told, the Vex "poisoned" Mercury... likewise we believe they poisoned Nessus. We were told the Amhakara were a monolith of evil, the Eliksni saw "Saint" as a "Demon"... because he was.
This is all connected. Divide and conquer. Zavala can't fight anymore. Cayde is gone. Are you worried about Mithrax and/or Saint? You should be.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZunadqwpLY]Idle Dialogue, Mercury | Followers of Osiris: "The Vex are Doomed" | Curse of Osiris[/url]
credit: Destiny Lore Vault
Look at the wings.... Conductor? Or maybe...
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5riz2ktINTU]Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris - Beyond Infinity: Osiris In Future: Panoptes "He's Found Us" Sequence[/url]
Or did we ensure it... "this dark FUTURE".
[url=https://www.destinypedia.com/Future_Safe_10]Future Safe 10[/url]
[i]""See who's robed as if a god, who stands with pride above the rest!"
"Destroy this ancient nameless fraud! Destroy the one whose death was blessed!"
— Weapon description
Lore
A fragment from Osiris
—ot been easy to gather this foresight. Prophecies are tricky things: they change the future they foretell. When a seer shares their knowledge of a coming event—any event, whether good or ill—there will always be those who gather to prevent it. Say too little and your meaning is lost. Say too much and you have made the task of your enemies easier. You must say just enough so that the few who can listen will hear.
I have done all I can. The rest is up to you. You must trust in me.
You must trust in yourself.
—Osiris".[/i]
"The Future cannot be exiled".
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZhbV7CitY]The Future.[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0M7BXi0oE]"Brother Vance is a prophet and, Osiris is the Future".[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJQTaxctsdI]Sagira,[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvYrRV7mWyo]"... the stray variable".[/url]
Why is Sagira calling us that?
Follow along with me as I indicated for the factors beyond a simple comparison.
When I say the Eliksni are connected, the Cabal... the events on Mercury.
If the GHOSTS came from the Gardener... then Geppetto helped to instigate our conflict and deceived us respective the Elikisni. And Sagira manipulated Osiris...
From the Tree of Probabilities, we learned the Legion were a bug inside Osiris's simulation of a Dark Future. That's why the Legion are on Nessus. That's why the Fallen are on Nessus.
That's why Breach Executable and Enigma protocol are callbacks to Season of the Splicer and our revelations about THIS dark future, this "Endless Night".
That's my theory.
You should be worried about Osiris too.
A dollar added. The "original" Witchqueen is NOT the Conductor... it's the "Lady in White". The entity Orin warned the Drifter about... the Gardener.
Her proxy and doppelganger is Savathun. Who is a husk for her ambitions. Our doom. The Collapse always happens.
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Sorry for the interruption, the shortbus called and they want their third chromosome back. Resume.
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Cool stuff. 👍
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“I predicted all of this” Just like how you “predicted” the ending to the light and dark saga where Mara Sov was the main villan the whole time and you got all this info from your “leaker” Dude youve been laughed out of the lore community stop trying to make yourself seem credible it gives lore a bad name when people lie like you do. Go back to the other sub-fourms hoping to go positive in a thread (wild how you never have)
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Sorry, too much nonsense here
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Just like robocop I'll buy that for a dollar lol 😆 😂 😅 🤣
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Cross was saying "the original Lakshmi". Either you misheard that and just fabricated this, or are deliberately misinterpreting it to fit your beliefs.
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Modifié par MC 077 Lasombra : 7/16/2024 1:50:46 AMSays radiolaria was removed from Mercury to destroy it and then posts a video saying the opposite, that Mercury was destroyed by adding radiolaria. What a incompetent troll.
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Modifié par Shockwave 989 : 7/16/2024 1:29:13 PMGreat, it’s not bad enough he butchered any lore relating to the Sovs, the Hive and the Traveler, now Hermann is beginning to tear into the Vex. If you don’t even understand that the Vex ARE the Radiolaria you’ve already lost any credibility. The radiolaria from Nessus isn’t being drained just because, it’s being used for something. It’s a statement of intent and the fact it’s seemingly a planetary wide thing diverting all of it to the core is VERY worrying. Edit: I won’t even mention how once again he decides to ignore the Achilles Weaves a Cocoon lore that told us the Eliksni struck first, razing London to the ground. An event that Lakshmi was present for an a pivotal piece of her motivation within Splicer. Saint wasn’t involved in starting that fight, neither was Geppetto. Saint only became notorious to the Fallen during his Crusades, which occurred AFTER the Battle of Twilight Gap and Six Fronts. Before then, he was just a regular Guardian to them.
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Modifié par THE GRIND IS REAL : 7/16/2024 1:41:45 PMCross is just as bad as doctor disrespect Will be interesting to see if your right in the long run
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You’re really into this hey? I have pretty much skipped most cut scenes or used them as potty breaks since I started. Lol I cant be bothered, so I honestly have no idea what’s going on.
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You truly live in your own imaginary world don't you? When Bungie proves you wrong, you just keep moving the goal post so you can tell yourself you were not wrong There are several things in your post that are wrong and untrue, but you cant have a sensible debate with someone who keeps changing the rules of the discussion Would be less productive than talking to a rock So I'm just going to leave you with this "Trust the Sovs, Queen Mara has been fighting for Earth and Humanity longer than most guardians have been alive, the day the Pyramids breached the skyline and all was lost, she wanted to go back and fight the witness, even thought it would have been suicide, but you sit on this forum and call her evil with vague lore references from 6 years ago , when everyone knows the narrative team is a revolving door, but 1 thing they have been consistent about, Mara being nothing but a steadfast ally , who has done nothing but aid us since when we first met her in D1, She made the decision to give us the black garden location, not Uldren" Oh and 1 more thing, the Unveiling is not a point of view at all , it's direct communication from the winnower , see how fast Bungie changes there minds about the lore, and all you can say is "Riven Twice Riven" 😂🤣😂 But I got no beef with you, we all have our delusions , and you are usually spot on about general gameplay stuff