I just got back from the movie, there will be a tl;dr at the bottom for those too lazy to read most of this. Also, sections in spoiler boxes will contain spoilers, so don't open those if you have not seen the movie yet and intend to.
[u][b]THE CHARACTERS[/b][/u]
Okay, so the original way DC intended the movie to be is having both Batman and Superman to have their benefits and flaws, in order to have you choose sides. They do this [i]horribly[/i]. Superman is overconfident and sees himself as "true justice", while batman is envious about superman's power and sees himself as "true justice" as well.
[spoiler]Batman also holds a grudge against Superman for wrecking his tower, causing his friend to lose his legs from falling rubble, and killing thousands. All of this happened in the crossfire of his battle in the krytonian attack on Earth in the most recent superman movie.[/spoiler]
The movie actually circulates largely around superman as a main character. Batman is depicted mostly as an insecure criminal who sees himself above the law, while he constantly accuses Superman seeing himself "above the law" as well. This is one of my [u][b]3 main contradictions[/b][/u] about the movie. Superman is also shown to be largely sensetive as to what others think of him, especially when he meets Bruce Wayne (This is shown in the movie trailer) and gets insulted by him. Others insult Superman, and he is shown to have emotional struggles over this. The way they depict both Batman and Superman, ultimately, is sloppy.
[spoiler]This also all becomes irrelevant by the end of the movie when they work together, and conveniently forget all past grudges against each other.[/spoiler]
Lex Luther's character is [i]extremely annoying[/i] (He may have been meant to be depicted this way, but they do it to the point where the movie becomes annoying). They constantly have him make cheesy jokes, quote random philosophers (This was interesting, but ultimately used wrong), and do [i]stupid things[/i].
[spoiler]Lex Luther ended up being the main antagonist in the movie, as he captures Superman's "Mother" and forces him to kill Batman to rescue her. Oh, and it turns out that Superman's and Batman's mothers both have the same name, "Martha". This was meant to give some meaning, but it was lost on me.[/spoiler]
[b][u]THE PLOT[/u][/b]
This movie had truly amazing potential for great plot, but it was ultimately wasted by the ending. Major spoilers ahead, read at your own risk.
[spoiler]If you opened this spoiler box, then read the paragraph outside if the spoiler below before reading this.
A major event in the movie is a court session in the White house on Superman. It ends quickly, when Lex Luther rigs a glass jar to explode (Titled "GRANDMA'S PEACH JUICE"), killing everyone there except Superman. This makes everyone in the country effectively accuse him of killing everyone there, since there were no survivors left expect him.
There is one more section to the movie in addition to the other two (Buildup & Batman V Superman), the Doomsday fight & aftermath. Doomsday's battle seemed pointless, since the movie had already been drawn out for too long (two hours into the movie is when Doomsday was first introduced). The battle was good, but didn't measure up to the Batman V Superman fight. In this fight- Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman (& Superman's girlfriend?) team up to defeat Doomsday. This had the best action, but almost no buildup so the battle was actually really boring. I found myself thinking "[i]When is this going to end?" [/i]several times. When it did… I was heavily disappointed. [i]Superman "dies"[/i], or at least not really. He is given a massive funeral at the end of the movie- but this makes no sense since he was technically accused of [i]killing everyone in the white house[/i]. His funeral is actually held by the [u]US ARMY[/u], with cannons and american flags. This is my ultimate contradiction of the movie.[/spoiler]
What can be told about the plot, however, is that there are two main sections of the movie. The buildup and the Batman V Superman battle. The buildup is [i]extremely slow and lackluster[/i], and is the movie's [b][u]#1 flaw[/u][/b]. It has many unnecessary events, such as: Terrorists, Batman's childhood, and Bruce's nightmares. The fight is the best part of the movie, but it is only because of the "necessary events" leading up to it.
TL;DR - The movie was too slow in its beginning, and almost all of the characters are annoying. I would reccomend to see it if you have extra cash in your pocket with nowhere else to spend it. I rate it a [b][u]2.5/5[/u][/b].
[spoiler]Oh, and "No one" wins the Batman V Superman fight.[/spoiler]
If you want to talk about the movie, put spoilers in spoiler boxes. Some people may still want to see it.
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It was a film with barely any action for a superhero movie
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Modificato da Oxie: 3/28/2016 4:17:45 AMOk ok ok. Did you see the movie? "GRANDMA'S PEACH JUICE". Wrong. The bottle exploded. Wrong. "GRANDMA'S PEACH TEA". And the crippled guys wheel chair was what exploded. Also, he's not accused of killing everyone. Everyone who blames him, accuses him of letting it happen. If you're going to review a movie, get your -blam!-ing facts straight. You're right, it was slow and all that shit, but I think you didn't even watch it and you had a 3 year old explain to you what happened. -blam!-ing idiots.
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Modificato da SandvichIsDone: 3/27/2016 7:58:19 PMMy biggest complaints with this movie (spoilers) 1: [spoiler]The other JL characters (Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, Wonder Woman) were very hastily thrown in and barely fit in the movie's plot. Wonder Woman's fight scenes were bad*ss, but she was practically unnecessary.[/spoiler] 2: [spoiler]The movie tried too much. It tried to be Batman v. Superman and The Death of Superman, all while trying to set up the JL movies. In a movie titles "Batman v. Superman," there was a total of about 10 minutes of actual Batman v. Superman.[/spoiler] 3: [spoiler]Jessie Eisenberg's Lex Luthor was surprisingly well done, though a bit over the top at some points...[/spoiler] 4: [spoiler]It was overhyped as sh*t.[/spoiler] 5: [spoiler]Batman kills people. [b][i]BATMAN KILLS PEOPLE.[/i][/b][/spoiler] Overall an okay movie. I'd give it a solid 6/10, knowing the source material. Maybe a 7 or 8 if I didn't know the story beforehand.
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[spoiler]superman was never accused of the bombing hell the reporter on the news states they believe it was the man in the wheel chair. [/spoiler]
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It was pretty clear that they would fight make up and then team up based on the comericials
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My biggest problem? [spoiler]The wasted potential for future movies by doing the Death of Superman plot. This should have been used later down the road when the DCU was established in the movie-verse. This would have made it easier to feel the loss of Superman, because right now I do not believe that everyone would miss him that much.[/spoiler]
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Modificato da superassassin364: 3/27/2016 11:13:42 PMI have to admit, I liked the movie, but I didn't feel shocked, sad, or anything when [spoiler]Superman died. Because [b]we all[/b] knew it would be complete bullshit to set up the Justice league and not have Superman. As if trying to convince us Superman had died for good wasn't already [b]complete bullshit[/b][/spoiler]
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Civilwar will be better
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I really enjoyed it a lot. Zack Snyder also already said that Justice League Part 1 won't be as dark as Batman v Superman.
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If only everyone batman killed just said "Martha"
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Modificato da Yakson5: 3/28/2016 8:06:35 PMI loved this movie Also, it was the wheelchair that blew up, not the jar. And they didn't blame superman, they knew that he could have prevented it, but he didn't
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I liked it, but it could've been better.
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Thought this movie was great. Better than most Marvel films.
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Modificato da Lethenza: 3/27/2016 4:17:13 PMMy only qualm was some wishy-washy storytelling during a couple of scenes. I'm going to discuss the specifics in the spoilers below. [spoiler]There was no point to Batman's dream about Superman ruling the destroyed world, except to add runtime to the film. The time traveler guy was completely incoherent from a storytelling perspective. [/spoiler] [spoiler]The explanation for Doomsday's existence and powers are very poorly done. There is almost no backstory for him, and although he is well depicted in the film, the exposition for his creation is incoherent. [/spoiler]
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THIS WAS BY FAR THE BEST COMIC OF 2015-2016 SO FAR
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They squeezed in and mishmashed too many things in the movie, which gave it a bad pace. [spoiler]The Batman scene where bats saves supermans mom is pretty cool. I like how they shot him in the head and he just grunted. Dude was brutal in that fight. [/spoiler]
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Its a big dumb action movie with recognizable characters. Stop acting like these shits are gonna be oscar worthy.
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I liked it. I gotta say Jessie Eissenburg was horribly over the top as the villain. Alfred should know what it's like to be an over the top villain [spoiler]you get a cookie if you understand the reference[/spoiler]
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I really enjoyed it. I think everyone just got too caught up in the hype. I went in expecting a great movie and I feel like that is what I got leaving the theater. If the movie makes me want more and can't wait for the next movie, then to me it was great
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Did batman's nightmares have any meaning?
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Modificato da Ze TacoLover: 3/27/2016 6:07:56 PMSo is this like Watchmen where anyone that is overly in love with Marvel's "action, comedy, some plot, and repeat" philosophy will hate it or is just a giant clusterfuk?
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FYI, Bruce's "knightmare" was probably the most important scene in the movie. Clearly you don't know shit about DC so the entire thing went over your head.
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5/7 too many plot holes.
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Modificato da FalconNCE: 3/27/2016 8:50:28 PMI enjoyed it. In my opinion it was a great movie
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This movie had a fantastic score. Especially wonder woman's theme.
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Great movie and lots deeper stuff going on people are missing. Theres stuff in it that will make sense more in JL. example the Flash nightmare scene. Thinking the R rated blue ray version will explain some for some people as well.