I like how in the same stream they tell us the new season weapons aren't craftable, and later talk about the vault space problem and how they have no solution to fix it.

Once I heard that but GoS gets crafted weapons I said well there is my true motivation to grind there. Heck I just did 2 ones with a great group having ya know *fun* something that everyone with this whole weird meme of you have to play the game have sprung up since crafting came out don't seem to understand. Grinding is fine if there is a end goal a chase can only last for so long and not only that what your playing you should enjoy doing.

I get that they think it's been too easy to get the craftable weapons each season (sorry, [i]Episode[/i]) - this season I think I got all of them done within 1-2 weeks of them being released. If that's the case, just increase the required number of red borders - that's enough to slow things down, while still retaining the element of RNG. Right now though, you can tell that their focus is on one thing and one thing only; content creators. They honestly believe that the downturn in player numbers is due to fewer creators streaming their game, which those creators blame on a lack of 'meaningful loot drops' By 'meaningful' they mean 'worthy of devoting an hour's worth of streaming time to in order to replay the same content over and over in order to hunt for 'perfect rolls' they can then turn into build videos on YouTube'. Because poor story telling, blinkered player engagement and a refusal to let go of decades old design philosophies have nothing to do with it, apparently....

It's sad Bungie listens to Streamers, like Datto, Azetcross, etc over the general public. They should have a vote for us all on things like this.

High time the game go back to some roots where time investment is actually worth something.

Craftable seasonal weapons actually give me a reason to chase the weapons. If I can’t craft, I’ll only chase the weapon(s) that I’ll want to use and that’s it. Playing inventory management simulator isn’t fun so I’m not going to grind for things I don’t care about, but I’ll grind red borders. Bungie short-sighted as usual. Update: so far haven’t found a weapons I care to grind for🙃

Agreed. Honestly anyone who says no on crafted weapons being a thing need to think of this as well. They can still grind for their god roll and they don't have to do crafting themselves. Leave crafting to those who like it and piss off about complaining. At least anyone who wants to grind for the god roll don't have to deal with the resource sink you have to put into crafted weapons to level them faster and install the perks you want.

Since they are not, I will be playing less. I always complete all patterns even if I have no current plans to craft and use the weapon. Metas always change, things get buffed, etc. I at least have the option to if I ever want to. Now? I’m not bothering to chase a weapon roll for something I have no plans to use and that there is now no progress to be made towards the pattern. Grind another arc pulse roll through rigid RNG? No thanks. This change literally decreases my play time for this reason alone, let alone how I feel about RNG. I genuinely enjoyed the red border pursuit more.

Agreed, Crafting has always been a net positive. There is still plenty of RNG for getting the patterns and there's always a light at the end of the tunnel being crafting once a patterns complete. Better that than piles of dismantled 3/5 rolls that might have decent perks but bad barrel/mag. They completely missed the reason we liked into the light. It wasn't just because we could focus the weapons (although that was nice). It was because of the FOMO for the shiny weapons. Making regular seasonal weapons RNG with some weird focusing busy work tonics is lame.

People saying crafting killed the game crack me up. They act like raids and seasonal content are the only content in the game. Last I checked nightfalls and dungeons are still a thing. seasonal weapons and raid weapons are all that are added to the crafting pool and that’s it. People can still grind dungeons, nightfalls, reprised weapons and everything else just fine for god rolls. Seasonal content gets rotated out so the weapons being craftable makes sense since their source to earn them goes away. And not everything gets added back if we are lucky it gets put in the world pool, xur, or banshee. They haven’t said it yet but we all know episodes will get rotated out of the game. For raids we still have adepts from master modes so having the weapons crafted is great because those that do not want to play harder content can just go for the crafted roll. Plus not to meantion people will stop playing modes or raids eventually when they get their god rolls. It’s no different than chasing red borders. It can happen sooner or later crafting just made it faster. Them saying onslaught loot chase is the reason why they are doing this is not really the full story. People ground onslaught for one thing and one thing only. The limited edition shiny weapons. From what I’ve seen over the years players love having stuff to show off and having the best gear rather than the chase. Be it from meta defining rolls (looking at you day 1 raiders/trials players) or rare stuff (looking at you bungie bounty hunters). I’m so glad I didn’t buy the next season. I was considering it but the seasonal weapons not being craftable is the stupidest decision and ruined the one thing I look forward to each season, so no point wasting my money. It’s just a cop out to abuse fomo to get engagement numbers up. I can’t wait to see all the posts next season of people complaining about bad rng like when onslaught first came out. I’ll have my popcorn ready and my response of “if only the weapons were craftable” on standby.