When patch 1.1 came out where were all you Thorn haters? The answer is either you were a xmas noob and didn't have the game yet, or you were balls deep in crucible with your Suros. Thorn got a slight buff on patch 1.1, yet no one seemed to care back then. That's right, it was actually worse back before 1.1, again no one seemed to care after the slight buff. Remember Feb. 5? https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Weapon-Tuning/en/News/News?aid=12557 See those numbers for the top half of players in the top half? Hand Cannons at 7% and Auto Rifle use is over double that. No one really cared about Thorn or other Hand Cannons then. Feb 25, and 1.1.1 [weapon balance patch] hits and all hell breaks loose. Forum thread tone is basically, R.I.P. bros, pour one out for Suros. Not a peep about Thorn, for a few more months. Now, like cockroaches you've all started show up everywhere. Here is a reality check for you, Thorn isn't going away, neither are those other weapons all of us seem to be getting killed in crucible by. *Adapt and overcome, or join the club. Either way its Bungie's fault PVP is the way it is, don't blame the gun.