Please leave Defender alone.
It is not underpowered and does not need a buff of any kind. It is perfect as it is in its current state.
I love Defender and if it was buffed it would become too powerful and overused, causing the cry-babies to rush here and to Reddit to request the nerf the majestic beauty of this amazing subclass. It would be nerfed into the ground. I don't want this to happen.
K/D does not make or break a subclass. Defender's Ward of Dawn is the only non-offensive super, because it's defensive. Because of this it's going to have a lower K/D than the other subclasses since it doesn't basically guarantee free kills (*cough*Fist of Havoc*cough*). It rewards gun skill and good timing/placement.
Force Barrier is amazing. A 40-55% boost to health on a melee kill is great and is in no need of a buff. It's not like Flame Shield since it requires a kill to activate it, rather than just a hit. The perks for Disintegrate are also perfectly balanced and deserve no buff or alteration.
The grenades are also great. Suppression grenades are awesome and are very useful for shutting down those pesky supers that seek to end your valorous killstreak. Spike grenades are very rewarding when placed correctly. Magnetic grenade is also great, and yes I will stick you if you start dancing outside my bubble. It's my time to shine, not yours.
None of the perks in the skill tree are underpowered in the slightest and can be useful in many areas. Some may only really be useful for PvE engagements, but that's what they're intended for.
Defender shines most in PvE, but it can be just as good in PvP with the right set up and skill level. Do not buff Defenders. We are perfectly capable of fighting our own battles with what we've got and don't need a leg up from a buff.
Leave Defender alone. Thanks
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You'll either use magnetic or suppression grenades. Something needs done about Spike grenades again Also, would be nice if the shatter nova bomb didn't destroy the bubble and you when inside. They did fix Razors Edge getting through Also, would like it if No Back Up Plans had sidearms and fusion rifles also proc Force Barrier as they are close quarters weapons too. Would be nice to have a "timer" on how long Ward of Dawn lasts. Illuminated needs a tweak for Armor of light some how, like suppression when someone enters or increase in armor rating when leaving it.
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Defender needs a buff, not a nerf.
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Nah, they need a defense buff cause striker has the highest defense instead of defender for some reason. and a defense buff for the bubble animation. Tired of getting a rocket or a sniper bullet wwhole putting down my bubble, and looking my bubble in the process because of the animation.
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Edited by Peanut_343: 6/27/2016 1:56:05 PMAll I want buffed is that it takes full super to wipe it out so....3/4 GG shots, 5/7 hammers depending on setup, all of the stormtrance energy. Its kinda BS that GG shoots it twice and then has 1 round to kill the defender. It would also be nice to have DR during the activation animation just like every other super has!
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It'd be really nice twist that a Defender Titan Bubble gives off a Suppression field when an enemy enters it like a Bladedancer, Striker, Sunbreaker, Stormcaller would do. As soon as they enter the bubble, they're defenseless and loses their supers. So that Defender can have an easy kill on idiots who'd walk right in xD
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Edited by Osiris: 6/29/2016 1:23:28 PMNo one wants to nerf defender lol back off already. The only nerf is gonna be your hairline
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I don't use defender titan and barely use my titan but I think a burn type effect would be cool for enemies that enter the bubble, especially in PvP would make more people use the class.
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TAKES 3 GOLDENGUN SHOTS TO BREAK THAT DAMNED BUBBLE IT'S TOO OP
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"Leave Brittney alone you bastards!"
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I mean golden gun was balance but ok
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LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!!! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [spoiler]i sorry[/spoiler]
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At the very least, defender bubbles should trade <absorb> any super that hits them, both destroying the bubble, and the super.
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***cue [i]Jaws[/i] music***
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Nerf NO BACK UP PLANS!!!
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#BUFF DEFENDER
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Edited by TheOneRaven: 6/27/2016 7:03:21 AMA short list of fixes... 1 - Remaster grenades... suppression is cool, sticky is fun in pvp... vortex sux... double vortex duration?? Add wall of fire like nightstalker instead? 2 - Super now trades evenly with all supers, negating both effects if cast outside the bubble. Perks like A. Symbiote Helm <extra Golden Gun shot> can be used to kill Titan... but it's a trade-off. 3 - Armor of light should be passive for the Titan and allies inside his bubble. Use Armor of light perk slot for new ability... Bubble now surrounds the titan with a powerful overshield and knocks back all enemies. Enemies who hit walls etc take damage. <example> This would be a passive agressive super...
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Edited by TheOneRaven: 6/27/2016 6:48:45 AMAnd add a damn perk that speeds up the animation, so we can actually use the shield to block other supers AS NEEDED!
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#BUFFDEFENDERS
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Read... does not need a buff. Seriously, pull your head out... I have a whole list of fixes...especially in pvp.
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I feel like defender has a really weak neutral game outside of its super usage. And I thing bungie's chart shows that to some degree.
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Edited by Tibbaryllis2: 6/27/2016 3:36:07 AMI've mained defender for over a year now. The only thing I'd like to see changed is for them to get a more viable grenade for PvE. The best way for this to happen would be to make the suppression grenade prevent certain enemy abilities such as vex/captain teleports, hobgoblin solar shields, ogre enrages, taken acolyte mini ogre face laser, cursed thrall explosions, ect. Also, either Armamentarium needs to refill grenades on spawn, or void fangs needs to not. Either or.
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I agree. I just made a post about how fun defender is to play on, and how effective it can be in 6v6 objectives if you spec right and use it right.
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Force barrier is 30% increase unless you use the perk to upgrade it then it's 35% I thought.
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Titan in pvp since Day 1.... Defender never felt, and still doesn't feel that it has as many tools as striker (or sunbreaker now)... I still use it and do fine with it tho... [spoiler]never have and never will ask for buffs or nerfs because I'm a Titan and don't give AF[/spoiler]
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[quote]Please leave Defender alone. It is not underpowered and does not need a buff of any kind.[/quote] Yep.