HMGs can be out-shot by most top-teir kinetics, and it's not hard to do. I understand that Bungie doesn't want them to be OP, but heavy weapons are supposed to trump regular weapons, right? 1v1 gunfights between a Thunderlord and Bygones will result in about a 50/50 split, depending on who shoots first. With penaccle weapons, the HMG is gonna lose out even more often. HMGs need a bit of a buff imo. I feel like they should be able to kill with about one less critical hits, and two less body hits, than they require now.