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1/13/2025 2:35:55 PM
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The End of PvP

As we all know, the state of PvP is...not good, to say the least. Whether it be soft cheats/IMD's (which another user has brought attention to again within these forums), or full-blown hacking, flying around and gunning everyone down. Firstly, I'd like to discuss the playerbase. As anyone who has played that much PvP lately has noticed, quickplay includes significantly less players, so little to the point of matching people you played with recently, perhaps earlier that day or last match, in every single lobby. This is to be expected though and is nothing new. Secondly, building off the first point, this lack of player bulk extends to both comp and trials. Again, nothing new. But regardless, the committed players that stay generally stay in one of these 3 game modes, which seem to be the most popular game modes. This concentration of skilled, committed players is VERY unwelcoming to new players trying to dip their toes in the water, so to speak. Let me clarify, this is not me complaining. I had a friend who has played other PvP-focused games competitively, and tried to come to this game. He immediately was turned off from it, after he consistently was put in lobbies of sweats and stacks. So he left. Not saying there can't be good players on the other team, but when it's ALWAYS all good players? No wonder. Again, not me complaing about a lack of SBMM or whatever, simply pointing out the difficulties of a new player in PvP. Lastly, yesterday I made [b]2[/b] posts (I never really even make posts) about raising awareness about a group of HARDCORE cheaters. That I can't name. The first post was taken down by a mod (for naming the group, lol), the second post was locked by another. I understand the forum rules, but they are CHEATERS. The more people know and talk about them, the more likely they are to get banned and taken care of. At least that's how I'd hope it'd go. Either way, this is NOT how PvP is going to get better. We have to think about the bigger picture here. The game's already going down, and if any of us are still playing, I'd expect us to do everything we can to try to save it. Or keep trying. But after that, I'd say I'm much less motivated as I was to do so, but I digress. Remember, ALWAYS report cheaters. [b]Always[/b]. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. Good luck everyone.

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  • Even console, hardware cheaters have plagued the game its entire life. You can only get so good at the game when you’re basically the only one in a lobby not cheating every game

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    • I'm sure they'll make their way to Marathon

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    • Are you taking about a certain clan that begins with C and ends with lumn? Because yeah, they all cheat (toggle when using their supers) and think they’re all good for cheating to get 7th columns. Sad existence.

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    • PvP population suffers because that is a side game to the main PVE game. When PVE is dog doo; there is no reason for them to stick around for even more mediocre pvp. Players nowadays don’t want to improve it seems in PvP and rather just quit after consistent losses. Granted in a 10yr old game coming into pvp as a newbie is really rough

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      • My guy. NOT everyone playing PVP is good or even decent. Claiming that "everyone is always a sweat" is plain ignorant. What is ACTUALLY happening is two things.. 1) Control is using "looser" SBMM than in the past, so a wider skill gap is present in games. 2) Trials IS populated by more serious players, BUT it doesn't seem like the ratio has changed by a huge, significant margin (based on my personal experience). If it had changed that much, I wouldn't be able to go Flawless solo. Why are you even putting your friend into Trials? Do you WANT him to dislike it? New players don't have the Power Level, the gear, the map awareness, or the game knowledge to reliably compete in Trials. Competitive is where I have noticed the low population the most, as it often takes more than 5 minutes to find a game. Naming cheaters is against TOS for these Forums. If you want to "name and shame", go do it on a different platform.

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        • They way I see it you have three main options. 1. Take the "normal" route that Bungo what's you you take and report them with the tools provided then move on. 2. Continue to complain on the forum where naming anyone for an "alleged" grievance will only get you a ban. 3. Wakeup and realise that Bungo ain't going to do a damn thing about the overall problem and quit playing a game that's stacked against you to save your sanity. There are of course other options but I think these would be the three most common approaches people would take. At the end of the day the choice is yours and only you can decide whats best for you. As for me? I know what I'm doing, and my sanity will remain as intact as it ever was ....

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