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Editado por Vongola654: 7/23/2024 10:32:20 PM
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Episode 1 Act 2 Week 2 Discussion

Spoilers down below: [spoiler]This week has confirmed that the storied location we're going back to is the Simulant Future where Saint 14's grave is located. This will be bound to create debates for the next week about what the Sundial did. We could be thrown a curveball where Saint's body is missing because we really did "break time" to rescue Saint; it could be we created a branching timeline, and that was the one the Saint we know is from. I have doubts about Saint-14 being a "simulation", given the Vex cannot simulate Paracausal forces like the Light. The Corridors of Time are a place inhabited by the Vex, but it was not created by the Vex. After all, Ergo Sum was created by the Traveler's Light, within the Pale Heart, a place the Vex would have no knowledge of or ability to simulate, yet the blade appears on our tomb within the Corridors. Next week will likely provide the answer, but I'm partial to either the branching timeline or us literally "breaking time". I've heard speculation that it might also have to do with Perfect Paradox. We did give Saint-14 the shotgun, after all. It might have a role in resolving this issue, given it seems set to drop next week. Something else that will likely come up next week, I suspect, is what Saint-14 revealed about what the Conductor told him. To paraphrase, if Osiris hadn't used the Sundial to save Saint-14, then Sagira would still be alive. This screams Ahamkara to me, and all but confirms that something related to an Ahamkara was powering the Sundial. A wish to save Saint-14. It would be a suitably Ahamkara-engineered tragedy if this turns out to be the case. Osiris made a wish to save Saint-14. When that finally came to pass, the wish influenced events so that Sagira's death was the price Osiris would pay. It reminds me how frightening Ahamkara wishes are. They seem capable of anything within the Ahamkara's power, and they can not only choose which wishes to grant (Riven outright refused to grant the wish to follow the Witness, initially), but Taranis showed they can choose to grant the wish as desired, not insert some cruel twist into it. Finally, there are Taken making their way down to Nessus' core, following the Echo and the Conductor. There was already a Taken presence this Episode with the Enigma Protocol missions, but now we know they're searching for the Conductor, for someone with the will to command them. As if the immense control the Conductor has demonstrated over the Vex isn't enough cause for concern, I am terrified of what the Conductor could do if they could take control of the Taken. [/spoiler]
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  • The Sundial being powered by Ahamkara magic is heavily implied in Dawn lore. Drifter said it the core was whispering and Osiris stated he couldn’t make the wish a second time. Perfect Paradox will play a role. It had the time stamps built into it that we used to find Younger Saint to save him and then the later timestamp to save older him. That’s how we succeeded where Osiris failed, the gun guided us. Even the branching timeline doesn’t add up. We unequivocally went back in time, that’s how Younger Saint was saved. I’ve seen some suggest it’s an alternate timeline version of us. Even if you grant that, it’s still time traveling back in time. So the premise of the suggestion still relies on time traveling back. So for him not to be the “real” Saint seems like a curveball from nowhere. Plus the wish being responsible for Sagaria dying doesn’t make sense. A corruption of the wish would be making him a simulation. Sounds like mental games.

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