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The_Prince_Of_Wishes: Their vision was as logical as the speaker, it seems...
[b]404Architect[/b]: Funny enough, the Speaker was much different in the original version of the game. There is a reason that Bill Nighy was chosen to be his voice actor, and much of his recorded dialogue is not in the shipped game. I am not certain if that storyline will ever be seriously pursued now that so many changes have been made.
truemeliorist: If you are able to say, is the feedback from the community about these things missing swaying that vision at all? Or is it more of a "you'll get what we want to give you" sort of vision?
[b]404Architect[/b]: All feedback is heard, even if you do not see a response. It is all taken to heart.
TheFiremind88: It's a simple yes or no question. If people were to organize and protest so much content being cut, is there any way it could motivate Action/Bungie to put any more of that content out closer to what was intended? It us a good game, but I think a GREAT game was advertised and intended. I personally bought a 400 dollar gaming system for THIS game. I know I'm not alone either. Despite you guys making a good game, can't help but feel cheated.
[b]404Architect[/b]: Your wallet speaks more than any words do to some extent, but even with that said flagging sales will not inspire a change back to the original paradigm. If Destiny stops bringing in money it will stop having new content developed. Voicing your concerns, opinions, and comments is critical to informing the development team as to what direction to continue going in, however. Everyone knows the reaction to the storyline, but I don't know what will come of that recognition.
TheFiremind88: So, say there was something done, like, Boycott DLC in response to feeling let down, are you saying that's more likely to just motivate them to pull the plug as opposed to giving the people what they expected? Even if we're not moving onto the original intended design, honestly just a reasonably cohesive story, and some additional content would certainly help quell the masses.
[b]404Architect[/b]: I can't say with any authority what Activision would do, but waning sales usually means no money to continue support and lack of incentive to continue support.
oldknave: Are people/the higher ups at Bungie aware of how nonsensical and poor/short people have perceived the story as being, and how repetitive the content seems to be, or is there kind of an attitude of "we think everything we made is great."
[b]404Architect[/b]: Everyone is acutely aware of reaction to the story. How much that will change the "vision" for Destiny is unclear to me.
DLC sales figures will be closely watched.
RagnarokSam: Did the original vision include more planets/locations? It seems the grimore cards mention Mercury and Saturn in some context, but perhaps that's just supplemental lore rather than anything that was intended to be player interactive.
[b]404Architect[/b]: Yes. Several more were planned.
StaticSilence: Is/was Jason Jones aware and supportive of this lobotomy to the story? Or is activision forcing their will upon bungie. Are the employees at bungie already regretting signing a ten year deal with activision?
Any answer you give can't be verified so I take what u say with many grains of salt.
[b]404Architect[/b]: I won't speak to his motivations, that isn't my place to say. Activision isn't solely at fault for the way Destiny turned out. Many choices were made, not all of them reflective of the original spirit of the game.
GoCallYourMommy: I hope you guys get the opportunity to see your vision come to life then. I think the graphics are great, the gameplay is fun. As a 40 year old gamer who has to hide my hobby from my peers (Ha) and own every major system/platform in history I hope that comes with some satisfaction to hear. But your situation doesn't seem to be unusual for 2014 developers really. I hope the cash pours in and you guys can tell the bean counters to -blam!- off eventually.
[b]404Architect[/b]: 500+ million in the first week. Destiny made back its development cost in 7 days.
GoCallYourMommy: Jesus Christ. That's some Call of Duty numbers. I had no idea. -blam!-ers better reinvest or they are missing out on the long term gravy train!!
[b]404Architect[/b]: Admittedly its less than that in real dollars, but $500 million in units were shipped to stores. That's, largely, how publishers inflate sales figures using the term "sell in." But that's how COD likely gets its numbers as well, so its a fair comparison.
[b]404Architect[/b]: Thank you for the kind words, Bungie has a lot of hard-working people at it who perform exceptionally under great pressure and tight deadlines. With that, I'm closing up my participation in the AMA, I think I've said enough. Thank you to everyone who reached out and kept things so civil.
See you starside. [/quote]
Part 3: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70902004/0/0/1
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Hump that Bump
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Bump for ya
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lost me @someone risking jail time. it would be a civil not criminal matter... bullshit.
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Contracts. It would be criminal
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Contracts is a civil issue therefore not criminal.
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This is fake! Why is the internet so stupid!
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Because people are!
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sorry deej, but even if this guy is full of hot air, it sounds completely plausible. What you guys gave us wasn't what we should have gotten. The game was in development for YEARS, and if the release version of destiny is what you guys had been working on for all that time, then it's clear a lot of time and money was wasted. The players are now paying for your companies incompetence, and I'm not talking about with their wallets (even though they are also paying that way too).
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No joke!
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How can a group of so many blind people have any vision?, not only did they screwed the game, also the reputation of the company, it's even worst when he says they will probably shut the game down instead of fixing it if the DLC doesn't sell well. Who ever is at fault here needs to either be relocated or fired, they have no care for the fans or the game.
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Let this die. It doesn't matter. At all.
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Let JoeJitsu22 die. He doesn't matter. At all.
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Wow. Good one....
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You can tell this isn't real because he thinks Destiny has NPCs and a story. ;)
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Guys you need to read this...
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What I don't get is why they didn't push out the publish date, like Dice does with all of their games, in order to make a solid game that actually makes sense and has a good storyline. Why am I on Mars? What do the Cabal have to do with any of this? Why haven't the Vex taken over Earth or the Moon? WHO THE FAWK IS THE EXO-STRANGER?!?!? I've read the gromoire, but some of it just makes it worse
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Stupid ass activision didn't want them to push the date any further
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I'm happy to see this post back with further information in the section 3 link. I find it interesting but I'm happy new players will get to read this. VtxR - PS3
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Someone brought this post back to life... Somewhere on this Earth DeeJ is twitching nervously.
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[quote]Someone brought this post back to life... Somewhere on this Earth DeeJ is twitching nervously.[/quote] ...& we should keep it alive.
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So why are you resurrecting this dead thread? Do you like to beat dead horses? Or are you just one of those "look at me I'm special" types?