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The_Prince_Of_Wishes: Their vision was as logical as the speaker, it seems...
[b]404Architect[/b]: Funny enough, the Speaker was much different in the original version of the game. There is a reason that Bill Nighy was chosen to be his voice actor, and much of his recorded dialogue is not in the shipped game. I am not certain if that storyline will ever be seriously pursued now that so many changes have been made.
truemeliorist: If you are able to say, is the feedback from the community about these things missing swaying that vision at all? Or is it more of a "you'll get what we want to give you" sort of vision?
[b]404Architect[/b]: All feedback is heard, even if you do not see a response. It is all taken to heart.
TheFiremind88: It's a simple yes or no question. If people were to organize and protest so much content being cut, is there any way it could motivate Action/Bungie to put any more of that content out closer to what was intended? It us a good game, but I think a GREAT game was advertised and intended. I personally bought a 400 dollar gaming system for THIS game. I know I'm not alone either. Despite you guys making a good game, can't help but feel cheated.
[b]404Architect[/b]: Your wallet speaks more than any words do to some extent, but even with that said flagging sales will not inspire a change back to the original paradigm. If Destiny stops bringing in money it will stop having new content developed. Voicing your concerns, opinions, and comments is critical to informing the development team as to what direction to continue going in, however. Everyone knows the reaction to the storyline, but I don't know what will come of that recognition.
TheFiremind88: So, say there was something done, like, Boycott DLC in response to feeling let down, are you saying that's more likely to just motivate them to pull the plug as opposed to giving the people what they expected? Even if we're not moving onto the original intended design, honestly just a reasonably cohesive story, and some additional content would certainly help quell the masses.
[b]404Architect[/b]: I can't say with any authority what Activision would do, but waning sales usually means no money to continue support and lack of incentive to continue support.
oldknave: Are people/the higher ups at Bungie aware of how nonsensical and poor/short people have perceived the story as being, and how repetitive the content seems to be, or is there kind of an attitude of "we think everything we made is great."
[b]404Architect[/b]: Everyone is acutely aware of reaction to the story. How much that will change the "vision" for Destiny is unclear to me.
DLC sales figures will be closely watched.
RagnarokSam: Did the original vision include more planets/locations? It seems the grimore cards mention Mercury and Saturn in some context, but perhaps that's just supplemental lore rather than anything that was intended to be player interactive.
[b]404Architect[/b]: Yes. Several more were planned.
StaticSilence: Is/was Jason Jones aware and supportive of this lobotomy to the story? Or is activision forcing their will upon bungie. Are the employees at bungie already regretting signing a ten year deal with activision?
Any answer you give can't be verified so I take what u say with many grains of salt.
[b]404Architect[/b]: I won't speak to his motivations, that isn't my place to say. Activision isn't solely at fault for the way Destiny turned out. Many choices were made, not all of them reflective of the original spirit of the game.
GoCallYourMommy: I hope you guys get the opportunity to see your vision come to life then. I think the graphics are great, the gameplay is fun. As a 40 year old gamer who has to hide my hobby from my peers (Ha) and own every major system/platform in history I hope that comes with some satisfaction to hear. But your situation doesn't seem to be unusual for 2014 developers really. I hope the cash pours in and you guys can tell the bean counters to -blam!- off eventually.
[b]404Architect[/b]: 500+ million in the first week. Destiny made back its development cost in 7 days.
GoCallYourMommy: Jesus Christ. That's some Call of Duty numbers. I had no idea. -blam!-ers better reinvest or they are missing out on the long term gravy train!!
[b]404Architect[/b]: Admittedly its less than that in real dollars, but $500 million in units were shipped to stores. That's, largely, how publishers inflate sales figures using the term "sell in." But that's how COD likely gets its numbers as well, so its a fair comparison.
[b]404Architect[/b]: Thank you for the kind words, Bungie has a lot of hard-working people at it who perform exceptionally under great pressure and tight deadlines. With that, I'm closing up my participation in the AMA, I think I've said enough. Thank you to everyone who reached out and kept things so civil.
See you starside. [/quote]
Part 3: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70902004/0/0/1
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Who cares. What's 15 dollars for an add on to an already awesome game. Just makes it last longer. Wipe your tears babies, it's only 15 dollars
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20 dollars for 2 maps that are available in the original game, but in reversed, lol
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Dang you went on down there for that comment didn't you brother. It's from November first
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And your point?
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If you would like to have a conversation about it, then I say you are right. Twenty dollars is alot for some people. And not worth it to some. I have friends with the expansion and friends that say it's not worth it. I understand both sides
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No offense meant, I was just saying. I didn't even remember posting that. Contrary to most, I am not a troll. I wasnt attacking you brother, just stating something slightly comical
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And this shit still floats around? This is bs and had yet to be confirmed. Some troll looking for attention.
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Dammmm this revived some old feelings i had towards the game, thought this post was buried...
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Just watch this video. It was created by someone a week ago and has already acquired a good amount of reviews. What is Bungie's reaction to this? I would like Activision's take on it.
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Don't know why this has reared up again, I think people find enjoyment in backroom politics...
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I wonder what 404 has to say about this new Eric character
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reading this pisses me off.
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Same. Also didn't restore any faith. This game is going to die
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The red flag to the story line and problems was in the beta... When u played as an exo male and voice was same as a human male... Next time I see red flags in your games Lol I will know to skip them because you won't fix them... Your story sucks and I don't have the time to tell you why... I play your bacon waiting for the division... You got a lot of work to win back peoples respect.
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If people spend more time doing productive things and less scrutinizing every bit of info (rumours or otherwise) about a videogame, the world would be a better place...or rather the internet world anyway..
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Don't defend them... If you like this type of crap I'll sell you half of a car for full price... Just let me know I will set it up!
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Haha forreal
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Bummpp
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If deej didn't respond with such a stupid reply I would have thought this to be fake.... But with deej making such a childish comment as a bungie representative , I can see most if not all of this true. Also considering deej only got hired in 2011 with bungie so he really doesn't know shyt in my eyes
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Not sure if it's already been said on this thread, but this is unconfirmed. Take it with a grain of salt people, it could be fake.
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Agreed, people believe it because it plays on the player's mind that we didn't get what was supposedly promised. Either way, I couldn't give a crap.
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Its the closest thing we have to the truth.