I think the proof is in the pudding at this point, folks, with the current trials meta.
If you're not playing trials as a void titan (24.6% as of posting) in trials with 100, resilience, recovery, and intellect, you're not winning.
If you do not have a Conditional Finality or shotgun gripped firmly between those ground riding cheeks (1.3 million kills alone for CF as of positing) then you're not winning.
If you do not have either a hand cannon or smg (400k/2.6mil) glued to your hands, then you're not winning.
I'm sorry, but there's something here that needs to be addressed. I'm not talking Conditional, because it has its niche. Would I love to not get mapped by a sawed-off at ten paces only to get melee'd right after? Yes, yes I would. The only reason it's prevalent is because of the uptime on 100 intellect bubbles. Unless you have a one-off super that can match the bubble's time, you're screwed. Enter the Conditional.
Point being, if a super is blocking all damage from the outside and can only reasonably be destroyed with a one-off super, then it should be a tier-4 not a tier-5. Well of Radiance too, but it's easier to counter with a sniper or (you guessed it) Conditional Finality, which bypasses the functionality of the Well's anti-freeze policy by freezing the person inside of it. Does the same thing for Bubble, but you have to get inside in order for that to work.
Will we see this addressed now that half the company has been shafted by the big brother company passing down the decree? Not likely. Will streamers actually bring it up instead of something stupidly niche? Definitely not, it's too much fun.
I want to play my own style in this game, but the way it's been built to favor certain playstyles, it definitely doesn't feel like you can play in a unique way without caving to the meta or having it shoved up your -blam!- and working you like a hand puppet.
I don't want to see anything get overly nerfed, except for things that it's needed (looking at you One-eyed mask and your 8-month reign of tyranny) but enough is enough. It's time to stop catering to streamers and cater to the health of the playerbase. Streamers are a 5% crowd where it feels like their word is law and is taken into consideration far more frequently than it should given how little involvement they have in development outside of "Click like and subscribe, we're one-thousand subscribers away from 100k. Also, here's my tenth -blam!--post of the day because I'm desperate for subs lmao".
Just coming off a waste of 4 hours just trying to get past [i]a[/i] win in Trials, getting to 5, and then getting dumpstered by Void titans.
If you tell me to "git gud", I would if the meta wasn't catered to a certain ape-shotgun meta with everything going for it in a PvP situation (overshield, health on melee kill, oppressive melee ability, fastest super, super with instant overshield refresh, one of the fastest class recharges & second safest animation, near instant volatile detonation, grenade kit, and more for ten easy payments of 99 enhancement cores!).
I'm tired. I'm cranky. I want the old trials pools back where I can enjoy my games instead of going to the weekend sweat lodge.
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Stupid question. It's PvP. People will NEVER be "happy" with PvP.
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Agreed
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It exists, so no. PvP morons have ruined this game for long enough. Get rid of it.
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Don't forget to ferouciously t-bag everyone you kill in your bubble or with an overshield, because how dare they try in a desperate attempt to somehow win the round... /Sarcasm
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I can see it now once final shape releases. Nerf the hunter arc super in pvp because it’s gonna be broken there
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Edited by Kiro - 13: 10/31/2023 6:43:07 PM[i]"If you do not have a Conditional Finality or shotgun gripped firmly between those ground riding cheeks (1.3 million kills alone for CF as of positing) then you're not winning."[/i] I hate to see this sentiment expressed, Conditional Finality is no better then any other top tier pellet shotgun. It just happens to be the only answer to WoR & bubble. Hell you even mention the bubble titan issue [b]RIGHT BEFORE[/b] saying this.
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nerf stompies
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Whoever said it’s balanced has not played trials when we got bubble as the instant win button.
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Gee nerf titan gets 19% and the other 2 say 0% why am I not surprised. Titans are the weakest due to the 100s of nerfs already. They are the least played in the game.
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It's the best it has been, but it's still unbalanced. Subclasses are still unbalanced. It's probably because Bungie can't keep up with the new 3.0 and Strand changes. Weapon-wise, I disagree with you. I think all primary weapons are viable, and almost all special weapons are viable. While SMGs are strong, I attribute that more to how good Peacekeepers are more so than how good SMGs are. Handcannons are in a great spot, but they still lose when you catch someone outside of cover (due to their slow TTK). There are a lot of rewards for playing. You get 2 Mercies. You can keep getting Flawless loot once you get a single Flawless. The Practice Pool is a good compromise that protects players.
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I mean I’m not playing bubble Titan and I’m winning. I also don’t have conditional. I do however use well and a handcannon. Imo ftbmm has to go.
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Tiered supers are the main issue, no point in running any other supers when there's a good chance you'll never get it. I still would prefer if you started the game with 1 super and whenever you decided to use it that was the only one you are going to get.
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If only i could pick the second and last option at the same time on the poll, i would definitely do it.
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Oh god please don’t tell me it’s another person who thinks ‘ooh the streamers decide it all’
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No, im not happy with trials. But most of the community's prescriptions for "fixing" it are batsht insane so im typically in favor of as-is over most theories. Not going to tell you to get gud. That's not required for this game.