I watch Planet Destiny, but I've been rolling my eyes since a few months ago when they said "Look this is Bungie's game and we can't tell them how to make it" Why not? You're obviously important to them, your opinion will definitely be heard and weighed. That's a privilege very few Destiny community members get, and many have begged for through these forums as they express worthwhile ideas and changes. And here's Holtzmann, basically saying its not worth the effort of trying. I love the idea of Destiny but the execution was entirely off target. Now I'm looking forward to the Division and Battleborn.

[quote]they should listen to overall player base instead of just the PvP players and the Hardcore players like the Youtubers and Twitch streamers. Give the people what they want![/quote] The problem isnt Bungie listening to Youtubers and Streamers, the problem is, those Youtubers and Streamers will not say anything negative about Destiny, why? Cuz they getting paid, son. And if the channel isnt big enough to get paid, theres always the chance it will, and if you talk shit about the game, it will never yield profit. The Youtubers and Streamers and forum warriors all tell you this game is fine. Theyve single handedly kept this Dev. from feeling any real heat regarding any number of topics. Hell, i even saw Bungie STOLE Dattos raid mechanics idea for the TTK raid, straight up STOLE it. He made a vid about it, and didnt even get mad, he only asked for a tshirt, lol. Because he knew it wasnt worth it to lose the Youtube money he gets for holding up this turd of a game. Its people like him, that are responsible for this game becoming what it is. There have to be checks and balances on power people, if there is not, this is what you will see. Because, popularity and wealth will blind even the strongest of us. And the people who warned everyone what was in stake if you keep throwing money at Bungie? Were treated as second class citizens everywhere we go. [quote]EDIT: I am concerned with mainstream Youtubers and Twitch streamers and anyone who has been flown to Seattle for free.[/quote] Ill add my own edit to yours, as this point is the one that needs to be heard the loudest, op! Also beware of people who speak for Destiny, in THESE VERY FORUMS, who have accepted gifts from Bungie as well. All of these people add up to the problem youre getting at in your thread. Good on you for helping pull the curtains aside from the morally bankrupt people who helped this game achieve legendary status for consumer assrape

Why do people watch others play?

I stream Destiny because I have friends who like to watch me play. Not getting paid for it. Also, never been flown to Seattle. (Of course, I have a young channel with all of 39 followers, but still.)

If they brought back all year 1 stuff, you do know that there be no element burn on primary, people stop doing king fall and op for VoG, CE and PoE cause they are easier