Not the fallen, nor the hive. A race that currently in the game has no ties to our earth, other than it being talked about. Research for this began by me exploring the grimore card "Decedents" under the vex category. in that card i found this line. [quote]...should we take this as evidence that their defeat is impractical or unattainable?[/quote] and [quote]...and that the continued existence of the Vex is not remotely a sure indication of humanity's extinction. [/quote] Both of these got me thinking: "could the vex be our demise, and none of the other races?" It says there that if these creatures exist, that in the future we have failed to defeat them. It does also say that this isn't a sure sign of our doom. I wanted more proof, so i looked around a little bit until i found the grimore card "Vault of Glass 3" this card has many lines in it that are important, but it is pretty long, so ill pick out the ones i find most important. [quote]Some of the largest craft bear imagery familiar to frequent visitors to the tower: Dead Orbit symbols, the simple icon of the Vanguard. The New Monarchy and Future War Cult[/quote] and [quote]Every single ship, from the largest cruiser to the smallest personal craft, carries shards of stone, remnants of the City and the Tower. Banners too, tattered and worn from entering and leaving warp.[/quote] This whole grimore card is from the perspective of someone flipping through multiple images in the vault of glass, displayed but from what i can tell are dead ghosts, from past and future. From what i can tell, seeing how this is linked to the vex, these ships could be what consists of civilization after some kind of fight with the vex. A fight that we lost. [spoiler]Any support and [b]constructive[/b] criticism is appreciated. [/spoiler] Edit: Could this be the future war that the fwc is perhaps eluding too? They do have to do a lot with the vex [i]~the unjoj[/i]