It's because CARRIES. Youtubers are offering free carries, others offer paid carries, Bungie do NOTHING to stop it at all and by doing nothing, encourage it. It's an easy weapon to use and that's why it should be taking so much skill to get, and yet here we are. Everyone and their dog has it without earning it, it'll be nerfed and all the time that I and others who have made it legit will have been wasted. Thanks Bungie for establishing once again that you do not care about PvP. Nothing you've done this season proves that you care, including that you've brought special weapons back. You could have established an economy first then tweaked it but no, perpetual mayhem in QP and comp is what you think is fair.

I earned luna. Earned it. I will use it. Get for yourself. It's not that hard, besides grinding to fabled.

I see them in every game and I can guess they paid for it because I’m not a good PvP player but I am better than them.

No far from it, at least you have to get two headshots for Magnificent howl to proc. That takes a degree of skill and marksmanship to use. Shotguns & telesto om the other hand dont. I worked my ass off to get Lunas and still trying to get Not Forgotten. I'll be damned if cry babies like you end up getting the gun Nerfed because of your lack of confidence in obtaining it for yourself.

graviton was fairly balanced actually. Back in year 1 I never understood why people were complaining.

You mean that one Crucible weapon that ALL PLAYERS get the quest for, that’s fairly easy to complete, even for a very average 1 k/d player, that’s almost as good as a well rolled Trust? That thing is being used in Crucible by Crucible players? Wow. That blows my mind. Seriously though I owned many Lunas Howl users on the way to getting mine with a variety of other 180 hand cannons with better range and perks that function 100% of the time instead of 30% only to find out that Luna’s Howl was a very niche weapon and not even close to broken like you crucibabies make it out to be. It has abysmal range and the good perk only procs if you land 2 consecutive headshots quickly. But then get this. If you miss your next bullet the perk deactivates and does nothing, and if your next bullet kills someone it also deactivates. It’s a single LITC bullet that only procs if you hit 2 consecutive headshots and then don’t miss the 1 LITC follow up shot. Doesn’t sound OP to me. It sounds like a solid exotic type perk that has multiple conditions to activate it, and the shot can still be missed when it procs. There are a couple pretty rare situations when you can possibly get 2 shots off with the higher damage bullets that involve more than one guardian and consecutive headshots, but I don’t even think it happens enough to really mention further. If I’m already doming you on my first 2 shots I think I could manage the 1 extra bullet Trust or WoS would need especially with explosive rounds or hcr which those can have all the time and Luna doesn’t. It looks like a pretty worthy weapon on paper considering the time sink it takes to obtain, but it also has tons of drawbacks that balance out the really good perk that doesn’t proc more often than it does. Not to mention that thing is very clunky and much less user friendly than Trust. And did I mention the terrible range? Or the hot garbage sight? Or weird handling? Or the terrible hit registration? I mean before it was the cool thing to say it’s OP, during the first few weeks of Forsaken these forums and reddit had tons of posts from people asking if it was weird that they liked Trust better and how disappointed they were with Luna after getting it. That was my first thought too. Go look for yourself and get off the bandwagon. The only thing even close to OP about it is the permanent outlaw reload it has. The first time I used it I unequipped it halfway through the match for a max range explosive round Trust because I was getting my butt kicked by everything and proceeded to jump from last place to first place by the end of the match. This was on The Burnout where you would think it would shine but man is the range a joke. Might as well use a shotgun, fusion, or sidearm. Using Luna is also a surefire way to take many baths in shotgun pellets. You have to get that close that they could close the gap if you aren’t extremely precise. I don’t know of any other hand cannons that make me feel that way. Not Forgotten is another story though. It doesn’t suffer from the range issues of Luna’s Howl, but it may have other drawbacks. I can’t say because I’ve never used it. See how that works? If you haven’t used it yourself you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, and what must be overcome to be actually be good with that weapon, more so than you would be with a Trust or West of Sunfall. To me Trust and WoS are better overall weapons than Luna’s Howl at more ranges, much more versatile, consistent, and easier to land crits with, and just more user friendly all around. Luna is good but you must play very close and be able to land consecutive headshots at a much closer range than other 180s which is more difficult or you might as well be using the Ikelos hand cannon. You literally have to live in shotgun/fusion/sidearm range which is very high risk/reward. That’s why it really shines for good players that can hit their shots, but miss and your dead. It can be godly in the right hands but those hands would make most average weapons godly. If I’m getting smoked by someone using a Luna they would probably do the same with another 180 HC especially if I’m using it myself. If someone is consistently 3-tapping you with Luna it’s because they are extremely skilled. The gun doesn’t do it for them. The gun is perfectly balanced considering all the drawbacks traded for magnificent howl. The reload could maybe be slowed down a little but that’s it. Sometimes people are just better than you or outplay you. Kiddos not being able to accept that is the only thing wrong with Crucible. P.S. I bet you don’t even have the gun, because I’ve never heard one person say it’s OP or easy to use that actually owns it. Anyone that says it’s easy to use is delusional. I’ve even heard multiple above average players cry that it’s OP when facing it and quickly change their tune after getting it themselves and using it. Me: Hey xxxxxxx you finished your Luna? Why you rocking that Trust? Them: Ummmm I don’t like that gun. Something about it. I just can’t use that thing. I don’t know what it is. I just told you what it is though. If you’ve never used it you can’t understand how vastly different it functions and feels than Trust or West of Sunfall and how short the range is compared. I’m trying to force myself to like it better than other 180s, but it’s not going well. I still think Bygones paired with a shotgun is the best loadout for this current meta.

I'm assuming this is going to be a Luna's Howl complaining post. If you guys don't realize, the reason that there is so many Luna's Howls around right now is because it was easy to get. Just like Redrix's Claymore. Redrix's Claymore just wasn't used in it's season because of Graviton Lance. Don't be salty that there is an actual good weapon locked behind a skill gap this season. Graviton Lance was a handout that basically everyone had. Just a tip. Get a Luna's Howl if you hate being killed by it. Makes the game much more fun.

It's good, but it's far from unbeatable. It has shit range. Use a pulse or scout, and alternately go in close with a shotty, fusion or sidearm.

I seem to always run into someone always rutanning shotguns ohh yeah that’s one of you. Git Gud. Funny how guns you need to earn people cry and whine about like d1 trials weapons. Stick to pve

They worked their ass off to get that gun. Either do the same, or quit bitching about it.

6.9% Usage in Crucible, that’s pretty high...

Luna's aren't hard to beat.. Besides that's a weapon that is earned and not locked behind RNG .. The apes and noobcannon users are littering PvP lobbies lol in case you dont know what I mean... Dust rock blues and telesto or parcel of stardust and telesto pretty sure parcel is in primary slot I could be mistaken..but you have a bunch of slide shotting apes spamming telesto all of the place .. They dont even aim its a bunch of pray and spraying... The people using lunas or not forgotten deserve to use that weapon if they choose to because they arent easy to get .. Id rather face a stack of lunas over a stack of noobcannons

I think the problem is skill based match making. I dont mind playing against people with a similar skill level to me with Luna's especially in quickplay as yes you can counter those people Opponents who are clearly 3 or 4 kd levels above you...theres nothing you can do except "git gud" the problem with that is some of us will never be that good I'd like to see all these high level kd players play against themselves but then again they probably want to win not compete

Translation: "Luna's Howllllllll.......If I can't have it, nobody can."